TU Editorial on Tuffey


By DIA, Section News
Posted on Fri Aug 28, 2009 at 05:44:59 AM EST

Good editorial on Tuffey's long line of broken promises. Can anyone remind me the one person in Albany who can hold the police chief accountable?
In Mr. Tuffey's case, he's promised to get to the bottom of a still unresolved scandal involving Albany police officers purchasing machine guns for their personal collections before he returned to the department as chief four years ago. He promised early on to crack down on drinking by cops prior to reporting for work. That notable and laudable vow resonates all this time later, for reasons ranging from the police officers union's resistance to the chief's zero-tolerance policy to several high profile drunken driving arrests of Albany cops.

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TU Editorial on Tuffey | 21 comments (21 topical, 0 hidden)
Enough is enough (none / 0) (#1)
by TerryONeillEsq on Fri Aug 28, 2009 at 05:53:12 AM EST
It will be recalled that I have publicly called for new leadership for the Albany Police Department.  The community and the men and women of the APD are entitled to this.

Jerry Jennings is responsible for this mess (none / 0) (#2)
by champlain on Fri Aug 28, 2009 at 06:36:17 AM EST
Jerry Jennings and his reign of error is responsible for Lil'Jimmy Tuffey and his multiple cover-ups and all the lying, cryin and crimes coming out of police headquarters.  Even when Lil'Jimmy is sworn to an oath in front of the Common Council he can't help but perjure himself. It's Jerry Jennings who is responsible for the Lying Police Chiefs Club that has decimated the APD for the last 16 years.

Time for new blood... New Mayor - New Police Chief.

Ellitist won't (none / 0) (#3)
by AlbanyCommonSense on Fri Aug 28, 2009 at 07:59:06 AM EST
He won't even show up to talk to people of color who have the biggest problems with the police.

How is he going to hold anyone accountable?  

logical (none / 0) (#4)
by DIA on Fri Aug 28, 2009 at 08:43:20 AM EST
that is some top notch logic you have.

Circular! (none / 0) (#7)
by AlbanyCommonSense on Fri Aug 28, 2009 at 12:37:51 PM EST
OK let me try it this way:

South end complain about cops
Cops ignore South End
Ellitist want to be boss of cops
South End wants to hear what future boss of cops gonna do
Ellitist ignores them.

Oh and since it is all true, it might even be a tautology.

Go learn something kid.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tautology

Click on the logic definition.  You see, you don't know much about logic son.  The rhetoric is Corey too.


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ACS look at what Ellis has said (none / 0) (#9)
by Albany Cit on Fri Aug 28, 2009 at 04:38:33 PM EST
about his plans, and don't go by what how you believe he has reacted to the public safety problems facing the city.  This article <http://www.timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=835834&TextPage=1> mentions some of Ellis' ideas towards policing, the same plans and ideas he has been talking about over the course of his entire campaign.  It mentions how he believes that putting more cops on the street, as well as creating satellite stations in certain neighborhoods will go far to help people in this city feel safer.  Maybe you should check some sources before presuming to know how a candidate plans to deal with an issue.

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Cit (none / 0) (#11)
by AlbanyCommonSense on Fri Aug 28, 2009 at 08:33:09 PM EST
This is all good.  Lebron already covered a good portion of that in two forums and it is not new but good.

Let me ask you, why would he not come to a forum and communicate this plan to an audience that I think would have loved to hear this?  How can he let JJ dictate when people get to hear good ideas to people who need them?  Lebron is right, he is just not mature.

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you have a point (none / 0) (#13)
by Albany Cit on Fri Aug 28, 2009 at 09:39:30 PM EST
I think that when it comes to challenging an incumbent, a candidate should take all opportunities to get heard, but I also do understand his reasons for not coming.  He does have the primary to look towards, since winning the primary is Ellis' best chance to win this election--and considering the other primary candidate wasn't there he would be fighting for support in the meeting with candidates that are not directly opposed to him in the primary.  He first has to worry about the other democratic candidate before he worries about the others (since it this is Albany), as I'm sure, even you, will agree with.  But if I have to go with my personal feelings about any election in general, I think the challenger should take every chance to talk to the voters.  Either way, it's not that big of a deal, it's a solid campaign move, and as with any campaign move not everyone will agree with it.

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ACS (none / 0) (#5)
by albany layman on Fri Aug 28, 2009 at 10:47:25 AM EST
ACS, headquarters called.  They want you off this blog, and want you out pulling up Ellis lawn signs.  Shoo.  Get going.

The other diagonal (none / 0) (#6)
by AlbanyCommonSense on Fri Aug 28, 2009 at 12:26:21 PM EST
JJ said you were supposed to put the Violation strips on the McLaughlin signs the other way.

I told him about your dislexia and he was ok with it.

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APD needs new leadership (none / 0) (#8)
by TerryONeillEsq on Fri Aug 28, 2009 at 02:43:11 PM EST
Jerry Jennings' leadership is the issue for us all here and the performance of his appointees in critical agencies is central to that.

In the case of the Albany Police Department, what I have seen is a series of five potentially effective executives who have never been given the opportunity to really mold the department. Indeed, Tuffey asserted that it was "broken" when he took office and proceeded with yet another reorganization to "fix" it. And though he ran dog and pony shows to sell it all over town, the whole plan was written without any public participation.

The general dissatisfaction I've heard expressed everywhere I've been this campaign season, whether it's here in upscale Center Square, the downscale South End or the working class First Ward is very consistent. The people want "community policing" and for the first time in the twenty years since I first encountered that concept, they pretty much know what it means. I've always told people, especially in communities of color, you have to know what to ask for. Well, now they do.

The APD is generously staffed. It's been provided with modern technology. Crime statistics are down. But the community is unsatisfied because now the community knows what it wants and APD is not giving it to them. The iconic moment I witnessed was in Pine Hills in June where a very testy audience kept interrupting a police commander who plaintively kept telling us about his powerpoint. The people don't want some slick corporate production. In the absence of true leadership committed to community policing and victim responsiveness Jerry's numbers could plunge to the bottom of the Hudson and people still wouldn't be happy.

At 423 State Street, there is a SUNY building where they installed Tom Constantine when he retired from the DEA. His first project was to lay the foundation for the Law Enforcement Executive Institute -- an advanced management program for developing a cadre of municipal police executive level personnel for the purpose, not only of better management, but to further professionalize our senior managers to better insulate them from political influence. It galls me to know that this sophisticated initiative was worked on so close at hand and we are not enjoying its benefit. See: http://www.constantinescircus.org/leadinst.htm

In the end and in all fairness, the problems outlined by the Times Union are not Chief Tuffey's doing. Nor can one blame Tuffey, Nielsen, Wolfgang and Turley before him. They are Jerry Jennings' doing. It is he who has subjected the office of Chief of Police to de facto term limits, allowing nasty things to fester, the members of the force to be deprived of organizational stability -- meaning real leadership -- and the community to be denied the opportunity to develop a real relationship with the department -- o, and the cops to get a contract.

awesome post (none / 0) (#12)
by AlbanyCommonSense on Fri Aug 28, 2009 at 09:03:37 PM EST
Very well said but follow Albany Dislexic Lymana advice and shoo, stop blogging.  Oh and DIA, Terry is a 1google% correct.

Go do your research and find out what a google is.


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Thanks for bringing the subject back on track... (none / 0) (#16)
by FedUp on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 10:09:20 AM EST
I could not agree with you more about the need to return to community policing.  However, I don't agree with your statement about "potentially effective" executives.  Tuffey is not now, nor has he ever been an effective executive.  He manages by fear and intimidation, using the authority of his position to control outcomes and investigations to reach his preferred outcome.    His tenure at the DEC set back the department 10 years or longer because he was able to promote like-minded individuals who have moved up the chain; similar to what is occurring in APD.  In today's agencies education, continued education, and training are critical - Tuffey does not encourage this.

The lack of videos in police cars/interrogation rooms is inexcusable and can only linked to Tuffey's not wanting to be held accountable.  It's been years that Tuffey has allegedly been doing "research", and no other modern police agency has had similar insurmountable issues with the equipment.  Until Jennings and Tuffey are replaced APD is doomed to be stuck in the dark ages.

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Who's Jennings' candidate for auditor? (none / 0) (#10)
by rivrghi on Fri Aug 28, 2009 at 07:06:40 PM EST
DIA,
I know this doesn't fit with this thread, but I want to post this question to see if I can get some kind of response to this issue that's been gnawing at me lately.

Knowing what we know about Jennings, it seems that one of the things that he would be most afraid of is an auditor being elected who is independent, progressive, and has guts.  That person would probably have the most ability to cause trouble for JJ if he gets reelected, and who knows, might even go after him if he's not reelected.

So, given what we know about Jennings' penchant for sponsoring hand picked candidates in selective races, how is it that he hasn't put anyone up for the auditor slot?  After all, with two pretty independent looking progressives in the race, wouldn't a JJ backed person have a good shot?

Thinking about this leads me to the inevitable question-- is it possible that one of the candidates--Engstrom or Shahinfar-- is in political bed with the Jer?  Could one of them have gotten to the Boss and said, "YoubackmeandIllstayoutofyourcloset"?  

I have my own suspicion about this.  But I don't want to say, because I don't have any real information.  In fact, there are several people I think highly of who back each candidate.  So, I hope my suspicion is wrong.

But, It might be interesting to see who's been giving who money.

No Sheehan or Shahinfar (none / 0) (#14)
by Throckmorton on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 04:49:15 AM EST
The current administration is concerned that either Sheehan (treasurer) and/or Shahinfar (auditor) make it into city hall.  Both are independent attorneys that aren't beholden to the Jennings camp.  That is not to say that either one isn't getting any support with campaign signs bundled together (solid yes) or campaign contributions (don't know).

The auditor's race is unique in that there is no incumbent nor has either guy held office.  I know that Shahinfar is endorsed by Jack McEneny and also Senator Gillibrand, and that he isn't accepting nor giving any endorsements in the city wide races.

The other candidate, Leif Engstrom, aligned early on to run with common council president Carolyn McLaughlin, and both were part of the failed Independence Party slate that included Mayor Jennings and Betty Barnette, draw your own conclusions there.

An eventually successful candidate increases his or her base of support city wide and that will include some of those that have backed the "machine".  In the case of Sheehan and Shahinfar, I wouldn't confuse that support with anything to do with compromising ones independence.

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Earlier post by Throckmorton (none / 0) (#18)
by Emerson on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 07:48:03 PM EST
[new] New Blood in City Hall (none / 0) (#1)
by Throckmorton on Sat Aug 08, 2009 at 06:02:29 AM EST

This is the mayor's city alright, but I think residents can also effect change by voting in some new faces.
I like what I've seen and heard from treasurer candidate Kathy Sheehan.  She has the intelligence and professionalism to turn things around in that department.  Darius Shahinfar is a strong choice for city auditor and not unlike Ms. Sheehan, Shahinfar is an attorney that will increase transparency and hold depts. accountable for their spending of taxpayers money.  

Some of the establishment types don't much care to see either one of these two get a foothold inside city hall.  That's why I will be pushing that much harder to see them elected.

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I probably shouldn't respond (none / 0) (#15)
by albany layman on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 08:55:40 AM EST
to ACS's crack above, but if nothing else, it's an opportunity to say this: I very much appreciate Terry O'Neill's comments and posts here at DIA, and I respect the clear dedication that he has to issues of policing and public safety.

ACS, your comments and posts?  Those I don't appreciate so much.  I don't know why you are dragging O'Neill into our little comment-section spat, but it's yet another display of low class on your part to bring him into it.

And one more thing, ACS: it's spelled dyslexic.  But that's not important, because you don't need to know how to spell when you are pulling up Ellis signs.  Now, go, get, your bosses want to see some real production out of you.

FedUp: (none / 0) (#17)
by TerryONeillEsq on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 12:03:29 PM EST
You, friend, sound like a very grumpy cop.  And well you should be.  You have no contract.  Tell Mesley to have the Union endorse me and I won't shut up until you get a good one.

Hi, Terry- (none / 0) (#19)
by FedUp on Sun Aug 30, 2009 at 12:15:24 PM EST
I'm not, but I wholeheartedly support individuals like you that are willing to ask the question..what is the impact not only today but tomorrow.  And like you, I believe that the majority of those in law enforcement are good, honest hardworking people who just want to do their job.  And the ones who are not need to be held accountable.  Impossible with someone like Tuffey!

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oops..Terry.... (none / 0) (#20)
by FedUp on Mon Aug 31, 2009 at 07:05:25 AM EST
I meant that I'm not a cop (and I'm not grumpy - okay, well maybe sometimes), not that I would not support you!  I posted my comment before reviewing it..I wish you the best of luck and would love to see you successful.

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FedUp (none / 0) (#21)
by TerryONeillEsq on Mon Aug 31, 2009 at 07:48:09 AM EST
Thank you very much for expressing your good opinion of our rank-and-file police officers.  They deserve fair compensation, the safest possible work conditions and good leadership.

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