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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 at 11:35:23 AM EST

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Gov. Eliot Spitzer has informed his most senior administration officials that he had been involved in a prostitution ring, an administration official said this morning.
So who takes over when Spitzer resigns?

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Pimpin' Ain't EZ | 24 comments (24 topical, 0 hidden)
Oh Bullshit (none / 0) (#1)
by alfrednewman on Mon Mar 10, 2008 at 11:54:30 AM EST
I think this is obviously part of Bruno's plot to discredit Spitzer.  Damn Republicans.  I bet Tuffey provided the whores. Damn Tuffey.

"What? Me worry? " "whatmeworry.alfred@gmail.com"
Probably Placard Man was involved (none / 0) (#23)
by A Muse on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 01:10:58 PM EST
Spitzer should not resign.

The Presidents, not just Clinton, and Lincoln, Ike, Kennedy and the like have all had extramarital affairs.  Did these women receive a tangible asset that should be taxed?  Not that was taxed.  We have a raft of political people in offices of trust that have lied and cheated and are then reelected by the voters.  This is a moral issue.  Should we be the people to judge?  

I guess we should.  We should judge with our vote at the polls.  The Clintons did a hugh disservice to this nation regarding sex in the oval office and abuse of power, and set a new standard for the country.  The bar is set so low anything goes.  Frankly prostitution should be legalized and taxes paid on the earnings since it seems to be a very prevalent practice.  Bill was getting it for free? So that's okay?  Elliot paid for it and that's not okay?

Clinton abused his power with a low level employee and Elliot did not.  He paid a professional for the service.  I do not approve of what he did based on a moral judgments, however, he should not resign.  Let the donkeys start impeachment proceedings to draw the voter's attention away from the real issues.  Spitzer should stay in office and do his job.  After all who are we in Albany to judge when we approve of Cops drinking just prior to the start of their job.


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I wouldn't be surprised at all (none / 0) (#2)
by albany layman on Mon Mar 10, 2008 at 12:08:12 PM EST
if it came from Bruno.  Doesn't mean it isn't true.  Just means that Uncle Joe will take you down.

§  5.  In case of the removal of the governor from office or of his or her death or resignation, the lieutenant-governor shall become governor for the remainder of the term.
I doubt it (none / 0) (#11)
by AlfredMoisiu on Mon Mar 10, 2008 at 03:57:59 PM EST
He was busted by a phone tap. I bet that FBI agent shit himself when he realized who it was.

The lesson here is in an era when the Feds intercept millions of electronic communications a year, don't plan criminal activity over the phone, and withdraw your cash well in advance.


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Link (none / 0) (#3)
by albany layman on Mon Mar 10, 2008 at 12:14:39 PM EST
Article IV, Section 5 of the NYS Constitution.

Man, I looked at the headlines and (none / 0) (#4)
by hawkny on Mon Mar 10, 2008 at 12:18:17 PM EST
for a second, thought Spitzey was an operator...rather than a user...big difference but either way he has "screwed up" big time.

We not only expect our politicians to be smart and honest...we also expect them to be sanctimonious!!

Bill Clinton rode our the Monica Lewinsky hoop-de-do to the end of his second term but the GOP made him and the country pay dearly for his contagion with classic "disease of the penis"...

Does Spitzey have Clinton's kind of moxie?????

Nope... (none / 0) (#5)
by hawkny on Mon Mar 10, 2008 at 12:37:43 PM EST
Not according to the Huffington Report..

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/10/spitzer-prostitution-scan_n_90766.html

David Paterson, next governor of New York...

Damn Eliot hook a brotha up. (none / 0) (#6)
by albarbor on Mon Mar 10, 2008 at 01:01:23 PM EST
I love it, the best news I have heard in years. First Bill now Eliot. If we needed to be reminded of the Clintons here is something to jog America's memory back to Bill "Pimp" Clinton. It is alright Eliot just go find yourself a reverend cry a little and everything will be alright. I say Joe it is time for payback for "Helicopter Gate" throw on the gloves and go get him. New York is not New Jersey we will have no interim governor. Joe and his crew should hold around the clock hearings until Eliot's entire crew is out.  Damn Eliot hook a brotha up.  

if (none / 0) (#7)
by hailstorm on Mon Mar 10, 2008 at 01:46:34 PM EST
If he doesn't resign, then this is just going to make things worse.  If you thought the Bruno/Republican attacks were bad before...

But to keep things in perspective, George W has done far worse things and has remained in office for 8 years.

Of course, nobody cares when you're just bombing sovereign nations unprovoked, and murdering innocent civilians in the name of war profiteering.  You know... as long as you keep your dick in your pants!

The Mann Act (none / 0) (#8)
by hawkny on Mon Mar 10, 2008 at 02:15:22 PM EST
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mann_Act

Spitzey supposedly imported "Cristy" fom NYC to the Mayfair Hotel in Washington, DC., via directive over the telephone.  To do so violates the Mann Act, enacted in 1910, to control interstate prostitution.  

Jack Johnson, the former heavyweight champ, among others, was imprisoned for this same offense.

   

hailstorm (none / 0) (#9)
by alfrednewman on Mon Mar 10, 2008 at 02:16:08 PM EST
lets keep this in perspective....

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/nyregion/20080310spitzer-complaint.pdf

Spitzer is "client 9"

You should read para 75-86 ( i think). As Spitzer had a "credit" with this group and arranged for future payment.
"What? Me worry? " "whatmeworry.alfred@gmail.com"

I wonder.... (none / 0) (#10)
by Corruptany on Mon Mar 10, 2008 at 03:38:04 PM EST
How convenient for Joe Bruno, I was hoping he would have had a heart attack upon hearing the news. Anyways, I bet my life savings that everyone in Albany is sheding their skin right now and saying "I never really liked him anyway". Oh god, you know what could happen if he resigns. Patterson becomes Gov, but if he is picked for a cabinet position, guess who becomes Gov.....Joe "F****in Bruno.............This is a sign of the apocolypse.

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from a pimp to a blind crack head (none / 0) (#12)
by albarbor on Mon Mar 10, 2008 at 04:56:34 PM EST
I was thinking. This will be perfect now Hilary can get out of the Presidential race. You know "an excuse" she is going to clean New York up like Bill did in Washington D.C. I just hope she get to the dry cleaners first. Well Bill will a whole new breed of interns in New York State.

All hail Governor Clinton

David A. Paterson's bio... (none / 0) (#13)
by hawkny on Mon Mar 10, 2008 at 05:23:21 PM EST
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Paterson

Oy. (none / 0) (#14)
by Roscoe on Mon Mar 10, 2008 at 05:54:32 PM EST

Oy.
Roscoe (none / 0) (#15)
by alfrednewman on Mon Mar 10, 2008 at 06:09:12 PM EST
As you know, I have bets that Spitzer would be forced from office before the end of his first term.

Looks like I am going to be collecting a lot sooner than expected.

Not sure why anyone is surprised.  Spitzer was a rotten AG and a rotten and vindictive gov
"What? Me worry? " "whatmeworry.alfred@gmail.com"
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Its all over (none / 0) (#16)
by Corruptany on Mon Mar 10, 2008 at 06:39:43 PM EST
Spitzer should resign, his life is pretty much over. I ask why? Silda is one fine looking women, especially for her age.

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Alfred (none / 0) (#17)
by Roscoe on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 04:02:51 AM EST

Has gambling outside of state-sponsored programs and venues been legalized? You do realize what this admission will do to your political prospects going forward, don't you Alfred?

By the way, have any bets on the State Democratic Party imploding? There's a lot more 'hubris' out there like Spitzer's.

Mukasey gave the go ahead ... (none / 0) (#18)
by hawkny on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 12:56:02 PM EST
to the Northern District Attorney General to "get" Spitzer.  Dumb ass Spitzey gave his enemies an opportunity and they cold cocked him!

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/11/nyregion/11inquire.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

I'll bet a week's pay that Cheney was in on the decision making....

In fact I will increase my bet to a month's pay (none / 0) (#19)
by hawkny on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 04:55:58 PM EST
Attorney General Mukasey (presumably with the approval of the Bush White House) set the wheels in motion to go after Spitzey, formally, some two months ago.  This froma blogger named Nicole Bell via the national blog site "Crooks and Liars"....

Some Questions on Spitzer
By: Nicole Belle @ 9:02 AM - PDT  

Maybe because I've been following the Don Siegelman case closely, but when I heard about Elliot Spitzer's pending indictment, something just didn't past the smell test. While he's admitted to involvement with a prostitution ring and I'm by no means absolving him or trying to diminish the charges, there are more than a few unresolved aspects of this that keep me from calling for his resignation.

Jane Hamsher has summed up these little niggling questions very well:

  1. Why would the bank tell the IRS and not Spitzer himself if there was a suspicious transfer? Spitzer is a longtime client, a rich guy and the governor. We're talking thousands of dollars here, not millions. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense that they spotted a "suspicious transfer" made by the governor, and that this is how things began. It's possible it was just ordinary paperwork the bank had to file with the government whenever some particular flag was raised, but if that's the case, why did the DoJ go to DefCon 3?

  2. What is a USA doing prosecuting a prostitution case? This isn't normally what the feds spend their time with.

  3. Mike Garcia is a Chertoff crony. Sources familiar with the investigation say that he sent a prosecution memo to DC two months ago asking for authority to indict a public figure (Spitzer). Which means they had their case made long before the wire tap of February 13. Why did they then include this line from that conversation in the complaint?

LEWIS continued that from what she had been told "he" (believed to be a reference to Client-9) "would ask you to do things that, like, you might not think were safe -- you know -- I mean that...very basic things...."Kristen" responded: "I have a way of dealing with that...I'd be like listen dude, you really want the sex?...You know what I mean."

This salacious detail does not seem like it's necessary to make their case, and appears to be added for no other purpose than to destroy Spitzer's career.

Scott Horton (who covers the Siegelman case extensively) and Digby have similar questions, while Glenn Greenwald notes the double standard between the breathless media coverage of Spitzer's scandal and David Vitter.  And Will Bunch looks at the incredible history of the Mann act.


Hawkny (none / 0) (#20)
by alfrednewman on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 05:49:50 PM EST
I enjoy reading what people write early in a crisis when it is obvious that they are trying to protect someone and then compare it to what is written later.
"What? Me worry? " "whatmeworry.alfred@gmail.com"
Ans Hawkny (none / 0) (#21)
by alfrednewman on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 05:52:58 PM EST
Let this be a leason.  When you need to whore- you need to bring cash.

Wire transfer for a hooker?  Daaaaaa.
"What? Me worry? " "whatmeworry.alfred@gmail.com"

I grant you, wire transfers were (none / 0) (#22)
by hawkny on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 06:12:40 AM EST
a stupid way for Spitzey to go but, in the beginning, he screwed up by not taking the "Lust Test".  Had he, he would have known trouble was waiting for him down the road...:)

http://www.deadlysins.com/features/sintest/lusttest.htm

Name of the Game Is The Same (none / 0) (#24)
by A Muse on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 05:27:18 PM EST
It is a sad day for the Spitzer family.  For New York there are conflicting emotions.
He was a man that did so much for not only the people of New York and the country as well.  He seemed to be a man of good moral principals.  Sometimes good people do bad things.  Bruno and company have been working very hard to unseat Spitzer.  If anyone has held up doing the peoples business it is as much Bruno's fault as anyone one else's.  The State of New York has the distinction of having one of the most dysfunctional governments in the nation.  Recent events have just magnified the disconnect between the people of NY and their representatives.   Joe B  and Jim  T can go back to work promoting themselves.  Regarding Hillary as a New Yorker, hee, hee, if elected President will she be working under the desk like Bill did in the Oval Office or will she bring some dignity to the office of the President.  Apparently infidelity does cross party lines.  


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