Albany cop acquited


By one flew east, Section Diaries
Posted on Thu Oct 09, 2008 at 08:06:34 PM EST

An Albany County jury found an Albany cop not guilty of menacing a co-worker with a loaded gun.

what part of "and then the guy said don't do that the gun is loaded" do you think a jury is going to ignore?  The answer, apparently all of it!
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here is the link (none / 0) (#1)
by DIA on Fri Oct 10, 2008 at 09:59:19 AM EST
http://timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=728124
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by DIA on Mon Oct 20, 2008 at 08:29:29 AM EST
So, apparently based on the testimonry we know an off duty employee showed up to his office with a loaded weapon.   He then handed that weapon to an onduty co-worker.    That co-worker, according to the first guy's testimony, then pointed the weapon at another co-worker at which point he was warned that the gun was indeed loaded.   I don't think anyone is disputing that.

An Albany jury found nothing wrong with this behavior.   The employee was not fired.

I'm curious to hear from anyone else who works in an office environment if they think that this would go down the same way at their office.  

Personally, this would not be acceptable to any employer that I have worked for.   Perhaps its just my line of work that is different.

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by one flew east on Wed Oct 22, 2008 at 02:21:00 PM EST
You used the word "pointed".  The victim said "pointed" but I don't believe there was anyone else in that room that testified that the gun was "pointed".  Matter of fact, many of the witnesses never said it was "pointed", some never saw anything.  Now you may say that is just semantics, but like I have said before small inaccuracies are how cases are won or lost.  I also believe that the testimony about the work environment had alot to do with the juries decision.  

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by DIA on Thu Oct 23, 2008 at 05:14:08 AM EST
he never pointed it at her?   That isn't what the article said "Noonan said McKenna moved his hand across the room and for a half-second it was pointed at Morton. ".    It was Noonan's gun and he claims it was pointed at a person.  

I can tell you that if I brought a gun to work and it was loaded and i gave it to a coworker and they had the gun in their hand and at some point I warned said coworker to be careful as the gun was loaded, we'd both be fired.   If either of us "moved his hand across the room" and that hand had a loaded firearm in it, we'd most likely be in prison.

If  you are allowed to believe what caused the outcome then let me state my beliefs as well.   A jury of Albany citizens isn't likely to convict an Albany cop.   I can't blame them.    

This is just common sense and anyone who is a supporter of the right to bear arms should also be a supporter of responsible gun ownership.    If you walk in the house and your kid is holding your loaded gun and is moving it across the room and points it at you for a half second, I sure as hell hope you give the kid some training as to the proper way to handle a gun.  

Apparently 19 years on the force hasn't been enough training for some people.   There are no jokes that involve pointing a loaded gun at someone.    I don't care how funny you are.

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by one flew east on Thu Oct 23, 2008 at 05:34:47 AM EST
I didn't say what happened wasn't stupid.  I'm sure the jury thought it was unsafe, unprofessional and stupid.  And I agree with you that pointing a loaded gun at someone shouldn't be considered a joke.      

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