Soares Spot


By albany layman, Section Diaries
Posted on Tue Oct 07, 2008 at 07:20:15 AM EST

A couple of quick questions, since I have no desire to get into the details of dollars and cents of Conners' audit of the DA's office.

Would anyone argue that these audits are not politically motivated?

Assuming they are politically motivated, what is the basic problem that the Albany machine has with Soares?  I mean, the most basic, nutshell reason that they don't like him.  Let's hear it.


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Well Duh (none / 0) (#1)
by Tom Paine on Tue Oct 07, 2008 at 07:48:59 AM EST
  1. Fundamentally, the machine hates what it does not control. That's the nature of any machine. They don't control Soares, therefore he's a threat that must be eliminated.

  2. He ran as an insurgent and won.

  3. You may have noticed he's black.

  4. He's treading in some of the traditional home turf of the machine.

Frankly the machine could live with a black dude or an insurgent if he was willing to play ball on the #1 issue. But he's made it obvious that he's not going to. And that's why he has such strong support outside the machine.

There's an obvious lesson here for whoever wants to run for mayor in 09. The time is right.

Any other views (none / 0) (#2)
by albany layman on Tue Oct 07, 2008 at 10:08:10 AM EST
contrary to Tom Paine's?

he brought up the unmentionable (none / 0) (#3)
by DIA on Tue Oct 07, 2008 at 10:30:54 AM EST

cops make more money if they arrest the kids on the corner than if they actually shut down the dealers.   "collars for dollars".  

There are people all over this city who can tell you where you can buy drugs.  When is the last time a drug house was busted in Albany?

The last bust of a building being used for illegal activity was when the one group of thugs raided the illegal poker club and stole their money.    

If Cusick wants to run on the Integrity line and he wants the endorsement of the Police Union I recommend that he requests whoever sold that machine gun to the gun shop come forward and apologize AND then donate the proceeds to a worthy cause.  

Until then Cusick is a joke and the bullshit continues.   Luckily he doesn't have a chance in hell of winning.  

Um right. (none / 0) (#4)
by alfrednewman on Tue Oct 07, 2008 at 10:31:00 AM EST
1) If the machine had a problem with Soares then they would have run someone against him. But why would they? Its not like he has done anythign with the scrap for cash, missing machine guns or anythign else that would rock the boat.

The bottom line is that Soares ran as an outsider and is now part of the machine, same tactic that Jennings used.

2)Any time anything is done or not done in Albany is can be spun as "politically motivated."  DGS Does a bad job plowing someones street its politics. Anytime a street gets paved it has to be politics. Connors does an audit during a gasp election year it must be politics.

  1. If Connors was out to get Soares he would have turned the whole mess over to the State AG to prosecute.  I looked at the report (available on the Comptrollers web site) and came across the $1,000 check that Soares wrote himself and cashed. Missing cash and evidence from the safe they cant pin on him.  This they could if they wanted to.

  2. I am willing to bet that this is "audit" is being used to "insulate" Soares against a first strike by Coumo.

Connors comes in does a nice friendly little audit and points out all of the "honest little mistakes" before Big Bad Coumo comes in and starts on the felony referals.  That 1,000 check made out to Soares and signed by Soares without any real paperwork backing it up- thats a felony.
"What? Me worry? " "whatmeworry.alfred@gmail.com"
It's political, but (none / 0) (#5)
by albany layman on Tue Oct 07, 2008 at 11:23:35 AM EST
it's political in order to benefit Soares?  That's what you're saying?

Um.  I guess I'll just say, that did not occur to me.

Some links would be nice, Al.  To the comptroller's site.  To any source that backs up your contention that these are felonies.  (Oh, by the way ... does that mean the APD also committed felonies prior to their 2004 audit?)

Anyway.  You've got a point with Soares' non-prosecutions on the cash for scrap and illegal guns.  That does suggest that there are lines he won't cross.

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Alfred (none / 0) (#6)
by DIA on Tue Oct 07, 2008 at 12:07:02 PM EST
forgot to mention that the reason the police union is supporting Cusick is also an implicit vote of confidence for Soares.  They know no one in Albany trusts the police union and thus by endorsing Cusick they are really telling people to vote for soares.  

Right, Alfred?

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Are you all on Crack? (none / 0) (#7)
by memyslfnI on Tue Oct 07, 2008 at 12:48:27 PM EST
Well, if you were, you would not be prosecuted by the DA...

Did anyone read this audit? Or just the TU's coverage of it.

If Connors had waited till after the election, he would have been accused of hiding the audit.

So because its an election year, COnnors should not audit separately elected officials?  He should sit back so not to ruffle any feathers and possible hurt theor re election effoorts?

I looked at the $1000.00 check you mentioned and he only used about 700.00 and NEVER PAID IT BACK until last month.

Nice.

Isn't that what he prosecuted Hevesi for?


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A bit flawed (none / 0) (#8)
by Tom Paine on Tue Oct 07, 2008 at 01:12:41 PM EST
"If the machine had a problem with Soares then they would have run someone against him."

Well, they DO have a problem with him, and they'd LIKE to have a real candidate to oppose him in a real election, but they are too pathetic to actually find one. I'm sure they don't lack intent, and according to Chief Tuffey it's all about intent.

This is a sign of weakness, if you're paying attention. These guys can be beaten like a rented mule.

"Any time anything is done or not done in Albany is can be spun as "politically motivated."  "

That's right, and one thing you can be sure of is that the louder politics is denied, the truer it is.

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DIA stupidity (none / 0) (#9)
by one flew east on Tue Oct 07, 2008 at 04:24:05 PM EST
strikes again!  Your comment "When is the last time a drug house was busted in Albany?" shows me that you have no idea what occurs in the City unless the media reports it.  Why don't you spend some time in the City or County Courts before you open your big mouth.  If you did, you would discover that drug houses are busted all the time.  The truth of the matter is, you have absolutely no idea about any drug bust unless it is reported in the media.  Quite frankly, you have no credibility when it comes to this subject.

And I think you like it that way.  It gives you something to pound your chest about.  


give us the facts (none / 0) (#11)
by DIA on Wed Oct 08, 2008 at 04:56:46 AM EST

I'm waiting.   Please provide us with a list of the drug houses busted.  

You are correct that I don't know the inner workings of the APD.  Apparently you do.   Give me the facts.

Here is what I know.  People saying that they repeatedly call about drug houses and nothing gets done.   That doesn't make it into the papers either, so perhaps you aren't aware of it.

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It's the Philosophy, Stupid. (none / 0) (#10)
by rivrghi on Tue Oct 07, 2008 at 10:58:30 PM EST
Yes, it's about control, and yes, it's about money.  But there's more to it than that.

Soares has been implementing new policies in the DAs office that undermine the fundamental dynamic of power and resources in the city.

The philosophy of the Machine is, basically, to blame the people in the community for the community's problems, and then to distribute the punishments and rewards as they deem appropriate.

So, poverty is the fault of poor people.  A declining city is the fault of the people who stay in the city. Crime in particular neighborhoods is the fault of the people who live in those neighborhoods.  And punishments should be distributed accordingly.

The District Attorney is the specific person who is charged with the responsibility of doling out those punishments.  It's a key role in the operation of the whole system.

But what if a District Attorney sees his job not only as punishing criminals, but also as preventing crime?

This philosophical distinction was pointed out by Cusick in tonight's debate.  He claims Soares is in the wrong job, because the DA's job is supposed to be strictly punishing criminals.  All this preventing crime business is not in the job description.

A major part of Conner's attack on Soares is based on this philosophical difference.  The fact is, Soares has spent a lot of money on crime prevention programs.  (Money that, by the way, largely came from busting drug dealers).  And not surprisingly, a lot of this money has been spent in the neighborhoods where there is the most crime.  

Conners claims that this is misuse of funds.  

The audit isn't really about the handling of finances.  It's about the way Soares sees the job he's been given to do, and the way Soares' policies affect the functioning of the Machine.

It seems like Conners has dug himself into a big hole with this fiasco.

You are dead wrong.... (none / 0) (#15)
by mailer daemon on Wed Oct 08, 2008 at 08:23:22 AM EST
major part of Conner's attack on Soares is based on this philosophical difference.  The fact is, Soares has spent a lot of money on crime prevention programs.  (Money that, by the way, largely came from busting drug dealers).  And not surprisingly, a lot of this money has been spent in the neighborhoods where there is the most crime.

I was not aware that the DA used philosophy to fight crime.

Looks like the audit and the claim that these funds were used improperly,  was based on the law

they can say all the nice things he does with the money,but if he is breaking the law in the process, they are flat out wrong.


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That's the problem DIA (none / 0) (#12)
by one flew east on Wed Oct 08, 2008 at 05:43:06 AM EST
You have no knowledge of the inner workings of the Albany Police Department but you talk like you do.  You may find this hard to believe but it takes months of investigation to bust just one drug house.  And there are several reasons that the police don't publicize what they do.      

My point is a simple one, you're the one with the big mouth.  The next time, before you open it, why don't you find out what your talking about.  

And it's not my job to do your work for you.  But I will help, City Courts address is 1 Morton Ave and County Court is 6 Lodge St.  Do I need to mapquest them for you?  Or do you just like to beat on that tiny chest of yours?  

time for investigations (none / 0) (#17)
by DIA on Wed Oct 08, 2008 at 10:12:01 AM EST
trust me, i"m aware of how long investigations take.   Its been something like 2.5 years that Tuffey has been investigating the missing machine guns and still no luck.  Must be really hard to talk to all those guys and say, "who had the guns?".   As an expert on these matters I'm curious to get your opinion on how long you think that investigation will take?

Never claimed to be an expert on the APD, just an expert on what it is like to live in Albany. I talk like i'm a citizen with access to the information that citizens have.   I've never claimed to be an expert on the inner workings of the APD.  

You claim to be an expert on the APD.   You claim I'm wrong about everything based on this expertise.   That we know.  

I do claim to be an expert on how citizens of Albany view their government.   In that role, I'll give you a little hint, since you seem to worry a bunch about what people think of the APD.   If the APD busts a drug house in a neighborhood, trot out your spokesman (who certainly isn't camera shy) and let us know about it.    That would help.    I've got another idea for you.   The One Flew East Blog.    Every time the cops bust criminals in Albany, you can post it on your blog.   You've got the inside track.  I think that would be a great idea.   Ok?  

BTW, the article in today's times union, i'm sure you know the one, that doesn't help the image of the APD.   Just like the one about the lark fest incident.    If you are worried about your image, you might want to change that behavior.    The blogger isn't the problem.  

 

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It's the Philosophy, Stupid (none / 0) (#13)
by alfrednewman on Wed Oct 08, 2008 at 06:27:37 AM EST
And here I thought that crime was the fault of criminals.

I personally understand the thought that the way to stop the cycle of poverty is to stop jailing the fathers and making sure that they are part of a childs upbringing. However, what good is it to leave a criminal in the community?

The damning part of the audit, at least for me, was how evidence is obviously not secure in the DA's office and that money that was supposed to be used for specific purposes went for things like parking spaces and t-shirts.  By the way, 750.00 for a t-shirt design is so far out of the norm that it raises red flags itself.
"What? Me worry? " "whatmeworry.alfred@gmail.com"

Yup (none / 0) (#14)
by Tom Paine on Wed Oct 08, 2008 at 07:06:46 AM EST
You're right there - $750 is too much by about, oh, $650 or so. Lots of folks will do it for nothing for a good cause.

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WOW! (none / 0) (#16)
by professor on Wed Oct 08, 2008 at 08:51:29 AM EST
Seems like alot of the poster's on this diary are so far out of touch with the truth.
First of all, the audit was begun in May when the petty cash was looked at.  It turned up so many problems that the Comptroller decided that his office should look into the larger "seizure" fund. The audit that was released on Monday proved that there are many steps that need to be taken to insure the integrity of these funds.  Nowhere in the audit did Conners say that the District Attorney is doing a poor job of prosecuting the bad guys.
With that said, I would imagine that Soares would not look too kindly on anyone who worked for a company and wrote a $1,000 check to himself with money that is supposed to be used for prosecution and police agency programs and equipment without any receipts.
I would imagine that the programs that David has put in place are worthwhile and effective, however there are guidelines as to what seizure money can be used for.  I would think that he has someone in his office that can write a grant to cover the cost of these programs.  I would also suppose that if there is grant money available, whoever gave the grant would be a bit upset if the name of the DA was on each article of clothing or bookbag that is handed out.  It seems that there is a bit of campaigning going on with seizure money and that is strictly prohibited.
As far as this audit being politically motivated, if anyone has followed the career of Mike Conners, they would understand that the least of his concerns is politics.  He is a maverick and one of the most independent public servants that we have. As for being part of the "machine", wasn't he primaried three out of his four terms?
Actually I want to report that the "machine" died in 1982.  If there was one, the Mayor would control everything in the county like Corning did...sorry, no more machine!  


I agree Prof (none / 0) (#18)
by memyslfnI on Wed Oct 08, 2008 at 12:58:39 PM EST
Saying that the audit is a smear, doesn't change the findings of the audit.  It would be different if he "alleged" that the office was in a complete shambles.  But it looks to me, from reading the audit on WRGB's website, that Things are pretty well documented.  The audit cites the law and provides specific examples.

It's easy to say, this is political, which is "alleged",  to divert attention from the findings, but it absolutely does not change the finding. But Soares seems to say nothing of substance, just spin.

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Soares is now trying to mend his image (none / 0) (#19)
by memyslfnI on Wed Oct 08, 2008 at 07:24:53 PM EST
http://timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=727661

Now there is no doubt that the steroid case netted him some pretty large cash.  If they hadn't screwed the case up it would have been more.  In the millions

But to hold a press conference on the money that he is OBLIGATED BY LAW to give to the Office of Substance abuse is pretty interesting.  

If he had his way, he would have used it to buy more over priced t-Shirts, and flashlights with his name on them.  

Anything to get his mug on camera

Yes, Let's Hear It: (none / 0) (#20)
by Soundpolitic on Wed Oct 08, 2008 at 07:39:49 PM EST
I wouldn't rely on reading a Times Useless article for any question of fact.  If you wish to read through the audit yourself to see the very clear problems the current District Attorney has with accounting, read the whole thing here.  If that link is not good, you can go to the County Comprotller's official website as part of albanycounty.com and left click the "Read the Report [PDF*]" linke and choose "Save Target As..."

Then, and only can, can one begin to debate facts.

Having read through the entire report, it is quite clear that there is a serious accounting problem in the the office of the District Attorney.

As was pointed out above, this audit began in May after other initial findings of accounting problems had to be followed up on.  So here's the point I want to stress:

This audit is NOT politically motivated.

Please re-read that sentence.  The only reason anybody is talking about it as being politically motivated is because we are in an election year and the mainstream corporate media loves to sell papers with "scandalous" stories of "politically motivated" stuff, and then turn around and write glowing editorials about themselves about how "politics" is bad.  Spare me, Rex, spare me.

Guess what?  Mike Conners is the Comptroller.  He is supposed to investigate problems like the ones he found.  He is required to make these kinds of reports, without regard to the timing.  You want politically motivated?  I'll give you politically motivated:  if Conners had waited until after the election and then revealed this information (which is damaging to the District Attorney and that's his responsibility by the way) then that would have been politically motivated.  Conners isn't pulling any political stunt; he's pulling his weight by fullfilling the duties of his job-description.

Let's jog people's memories about Mike Conners:  in 2004, he switched parties and ran as a Republican against State Senator Neil Breslin.  So to disregard that and run around saying that this is the machine doing this when the entire report was drawn up by somebody who was, and still is, brave enough to fight the machine echoes a cavernous lack of logical reasoning.  He remains one of the most independent-minded elected officials in the County, and it's a breath of fresh air to have somebody who doesn't care about Republican or Democrat or whether the year is odd or even, just someone who cares if the credit and debit side of the financial reports are equal.  And by the way, he crushed his previous primary opponent last year as a Democrat again.  So if anybody has a true claim to a party by the name of "Integrity" it's County Comptroller Mike Conners.

You know what is politically motivated?  The Times Onion!  They got so wrapped up in whether or not this was Conners against Soares, they misprinted the debate in yesterday's story about the race they actually said that Conners was going to debate Cusick.  I've heard of yellow journalism before, but this excuse for journalism is as brown as...well, you fill in the blank.

I won't get into the details of the audit, either.  I linked to it, so the onus is on you to get into the details of the audit before forming opinions about it.  But I will say this:  after reading through it, and seeing how much money was unaccounted, mishandled, and used for what seem to be truly politically motivated purposes and after reading the attachments (yes, you have to read the entire document before forming a valid opinion) to see how unresponsive the District Attorney's office was to the Comprotller's office's legitimate and authoritative requests, I have found my down-ticket race on which I will split my ticket this year as I have done every year.

Once again, it was not Mike Conner's intentions to have people come to this conclusion; his intention was to do his job by making sure the District Attorney was doing his.  As it stands, the office has become too politicized as it is; out of all the offices in county government, the office of the people's prosecutor should be the least political.  While I'm happy with much of Soare's term in office, especially the grassroots manner in which he came into it, it seems the campaign never ended, and that's not how you run a DA's office, but it is how you run the DA's office into the red (or, as the case may be, off the books.)  All you need in a DA, really, is somebody with a license to practice law and good intentions.  A Gooper he may be, but Roger Cusick has one of those, and he's running on a third-party ticket (something I like) and he too challenged a Breslin (County Executive Mike, Brother #2 of 3) in the past, so his intentions seem good enough for me.

Cusick got my vote last year, and he'll get it again this year.  David Soares proved that you can indeed beat the machine, and his legacy for that will never be forgotten; but he forgot that you have build a better machine, and he failed to do that by the information provided by the Comptroller's accurate, informative, and impartial audit.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

More DIA spin and misguided information (none / 0) (#21)
by one flew east on Thu Oct 09, 2008 at 12:23:06 AM EST
Fact #1: Show me at anytime on your blog I said that I was an expert on the Albany Police Department.  It's never happened.  The fact is that along time ago, you named me the expert, I never calmed to be.  

Fact #2: Your statement "I've never claimed to be an expert on the inner workings of the APD" is a lie.  Your statement before that was " When is the last time a drug house was busted in Albany?", implying that you know the answer.  And your next line "the last bust of a building being used for illegal activity was when the one group of thugs raided the illegal poker club and stole their money", proves it.  You don't know what you're talking about but you imply to other bloggers that you do.  And when someone calls you out on your lies, you do what all good liars do, back down.  

Fact #3:  How the hell do you know if the police department doesn't report crime to the media.  You don't, you just assume they don't because the media doesn't report it.  Maybe the media just doesn't give a fuck about reporting crime.  About 15 years ago the Times Union use to print the daily blotter in the paper.  You don't see that anymore do you?  Have you ever asked yourself, why not?  Of course not, that wouldn't fit your agenda.

Fact #4: And for your question "who had the guns?".   I think they know who had the guns, but that isn't the real issue, is it?  

And for a One Flew East blog, no thank you, unlike you, I have a life.  

one flew east (none / 0) (#23)
by DIA on Thu Oct 09, 2008 at 07:30:49 AM EST
you have told me and others that we have no idea how community policing works.    I guess you should retract that as you now say you are not an expert on police matters.  

You have said that the beat cops didn't do their jobs and said some other negative things about them.   I guess you should apologize since you are admitting you don't know enough to make these sorts of assessments.

I didn't say the police didn't report their drug busts to the media.  I said if you are worried about the police image,  or if anyone in albany is, the well paid spokesman should be more vocal when the APD has busted drug operations in our neigbhoods.  

About the guns.  The real issue is that members of the APD committed serious crimes and chief tuffey is covering for them.   That is the real issue.   If you think they know who had the guns, then I guess you must believe tuffey is lying to cover up the truth.   On this, we agreee.   As usual, I will point out that if the chief and members of the APD are lying to cover up crimes, that is the issue.  Not someone typing about it on a website.  

Until they come clean they should wipe the word "integrity" off the side of every police vehicle in Albany.    Of course it isn't hte majority of the cops who are the problem, but the ones that are the problem have brought this on the rest.   And apparently covering up is more important.  So take the damn word off the cars.    I've included the definition below.  

in·teg·ri·ty         [in-teg-ri-tee] Pronunciation Key -
-noun
1.    adherence to moral and ethical principles; soundness of moral character; honesty.

[ Parent ]

Let's not forget that our county comptroller... (none / 0) (#22)
by Jim Travers on Thu Oct 09, 2008 at 01:04:02 AM EST
is an insurance salesman and not an accountant. He just reports what his auditors tell him and for sure, he must have at least one CPA working for him.

This comment is not meant in anyway to diminish the seriousness of the DA's sloppy accounting practices.

Somebody should remind him that in Albany the small time criminals do hard time while the biggest thieves of all walk free.

JIm, (none / 0) (#25)
by memyslfnI on Thu Oct 09, 2008 at 10:21:00 AM EST
It is obvious you dislike Connors.  That is your prerogative. But it is statements like that that take the focus away from the facts.  Read the audit and then make a determination as to whether the facts are true or false.

The rebuttal by Soares is also on line and the best he can come up with is that they have philosophical differences on how to spend county money. No cite of law, no facts on why he can do the things he does.

The comptroller and his staff backed all their claims in the audit with fact.  Soares, does not.  He puts a political spin to detract that his office lost/misspent/misplaced/stole 6200.00, he clearly held on to almost 300.00 of county money until an audit by the Comptroller's Office spurred him to pay it back, and he plastered his name on stuff with county money to give out as freebees.  (clearly a campaign expense)

Coares has not once responded to these facts and only says this is politically motivated.  No one has taken him to task on this.  Well Sound P is right, it sells papers.  

Let's not forget about the fact that Brendon Lyons clearly is biased in his reporting.  It was pointed out somewhere else, (this blog?  I can't remember) that he and Christian D were bouncers together at an albany bar.  They still hang out from what I understand and are still good friends.

Read the facts and then comment.

[ Parent ]

DIA (none / 0) (#24)
by one flew east on Thu Oct 09, 2008 at 10:13:53 AM EST
Like I have said before, I never claimed to be an expert.  However, I do know people in law enforcement and have some knowledge of how a police department works.  What I have said in the past is that most of the beat cops were lazy and didn't do their jobs.  If you want to blame management for that, that's fine with me.  

With that being said, I do know more than you, which really isn't saying much, is it?  Does knowing more than you make me an expert?

Do you know that all the beat cops weren't eliminated?  Probably not.  When their positions were being cut one of the beat cops went to the Chief and proved he was doing his job.  He got to keep his job and to this day, still works his beat.  Too bad some of the other lazy cops didn't do the same.  And this has nothing to do with expertise, it comes from personal knowledge.  So I guess no apology is necessary.  

And while you have never claimed to be an expert of the Albany Police Department, you sure the hell have implied it!  Over and over and over.......................

And if you want to take the word "integrity" off the side of the cops cars go ahead.  I'm sure the cops won't mind, their called a lot worse when they're out on the streets then having no integrity.  But you wouldn't know that, would you?

My biggest problem with you is that you make blanket statements about the cops without knowing the facts.  Again, show me when I have ever said I was worried about what people think about the Albany Police.  I never have, that is just some more or your lies and false information.

The main reason I post in your blog is to correct your lies and distortions of the truth.  

I also question your integrity!  

Not politics? (none / 0) (#26)
by albany layman on Thu Oct 09, 2008 at 11:34:16 AM EST
Why was the audit done in 2008, as opposed to 2007, 2006, 2005?  Not politics?

The TU was briefed about the audit by someone in the APD.  The police union is endorsing Cusick, and the first one to run to the press about the audit is someone from APD.  Not politics?

Anyway.  I never said that the audit didn't reveal problems.  I just tried to put my faulty "logical reasoning" to work in trying to figure out motivations.

remember (none / 0) (#27)
by firefoxfan on Thu Oct 09, 2008 at 12:50:44 PM EST
the harsh reality of politics: intentions aren't important (unfortunately)--only consequences.  Of course there is at least some "political" motivation in Conners' timing of his audit.  If he did it after the election, as someone else astutely pointed out, he would have been accused of playing politics as well, just in reverse: by delaying the audit he was protecting Soares.

He was in a conundrum: either way it would have looked bad for Conners, it is just a question of what looks less bad and what will continue to engender Connors' base to him rather than trying to win over the progressives.  So he did what made the most logical sense: go after Soares before the election. Connors had nothing to lose by doing this, its not like the progressives voted for him anyways...

But onto David Soares.  As another commentator pointed out (rightly), he inherited an office that was in virtual chaos.  There had never been oversight or consistent routines over the years and tenures of Greenberg and Clyne. The word that best describes their organization over the years is "Byzantine."

Soares in effect had to start from scratch, and reorganization and professionalization does not happen overnight; it takes years!

Soares is frightening for much of law enforcement because he dares suggest that the stick alone does not solve the problem; it takes carrots too. The traditional methods of dealing with crime no longer work (if they ever did). People want punishment rather than solving the problem so as to avoid it in the future. This may mean less punishment and some sort of alternative to it.

In any event, my belief is that very little will stick to Soares and he will cruise to another electoral victory, further discrediting those that have lined up against him in this campaign.

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Not Politics...Period. (none / 0) (#28)
by Soundpolitic on Thu Oct 09, 2008 at 06:46:52 PM EST
Layman, you know I love ya, and I gotta thank you for hosting this forum.  But the questions you raise above have already been addressed.  I will retierate:

The audit was done in 2008 because of problems that arose earlier.  You stressed that reading is imporatant; it is.  But reading the audit itself is more important than reading the Times Union article about the audit.  That's the difference between a primary source and a secondary source.  You don't have to read far to answer your first question...the following quotes are from page 3:

An audit of the State and Federal forfeiture funds was necessary due to the findings and recommendations of the Petty Cash Audit of May 8, 2008, which illustrated the fiscal mismanagement of County monies by the District Attorney's Office.
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The Albany County Comptroller's Office audited the Federal and New York State forfeiture and seized asset accounts, the safe that was the focus of a review by the NYS Office of State Comptroller (OSC) in 2005 and the New York State Police review and evaluation of the evidence procedures in 2005 and the procedural operations for oversight of those funds.

Emphasis added.

As such, we can see that this audit is one of several in an on-going process.  Somebody above pointed out that reorganization and professionalism takes years...so does accountablity.

Also, Layman, you mention many years the audit could have been done.  2007, 2006, 2005...

I'll gently remind you that the second Tuesday of November is Election Day every year in America.  To prove my point, a few rhetorical questions need to be asked:  If the audit was done in 2007, would it be "politically motivated" towards Conner's re-election that year?  If it was done in 2006, would it be "politically motivated" in some way towards elections for the County Committee or something?  Surely, couldn't somebody come up with some "politically motivated" reason for having the State audit the District Attorney's office in 2005?  Let's go further...if Conner's had audited the office in 2004 when Paul Clyne was still District Attorney, would the language in defense of the District Attorney be the same except for the name of he who currently holds the office?  My point is this:  every year is a political year.  So just saying something is "politically motivated" based on a number derived from the death of a man who advised against such petty bickering in the first place simply holds no weight in my book.  And with that in mind, it's worth looking around to see who cast the first stone on this one.

I have to rest my case on that one, and reiterate that the authority cited in the audit, the scope of the audit, and the facts and correspondence made plain in the audit make it very clear that this audit is not "politically motivated."  Those two words are simply cooked up by machine politicians, professional political distractors, and a press corp that likes to think the combination sells papers and grabs attention between commercials.  I don't care how the TU gets their information, and obviously neither do they, or we'd have some semblance of accuracy and impartiality in that rag.  Also, the police union, like all unions, are not political organizations; any union is simply an extension of every American's first amendement right to freedom of assembly, and their endorsements an expression of the freedom of speech, guaranteed in the same amendment.  Like I said, if anything is truly politically motivated in the purest sense of those two words, it is the coverage, not the audit.  The fact that the debate has been muddied up so much, as evidenced by discussion here on this board, proves that a reliance on their shoddy excuse for reporting over the actual document in question is the prime suspect in the crime of people debating what they think the facts are as opposed to the fact as they stand in the realm of reality.

I stand by my assertation that this is not a matter of who's involved in "politcs" and who's not; it's a question of who's doing their job and who isn't.  And my belief is that Conners is doing an excellent job and that Soares has performed less than adequately, especially considering the great promise he came into office with.  Sometimes the harder they come, the harder they fall.

A quick disclaimer:  I have no license to give a legal opinion, and nothing I said should be construed as such.  But I do have a right to disagree with political opinions, and I hope I haven't been too disagreeable in doing so, especially with a fellow blogger whom I have the utmost respect for.  If I have been, I apologize, and would remind everyone that after election day, no matter who wins (and I hope Cusick does) we need to fix the glaring problems in the DA's office no matter who serves out the next term.  

Thank you for opening up this discussion, Layman.  Peace to all, and you especially.

huge problems inthe DA's office (none / 0) (#29)
by memyslfnI on Thu Oct 09, 2008 at 07:25:36 PM EST

Carol Demare has the story at the TU

so lets look at the issues

the Audit

(do I need a link)

To draw attention AWAY from the misuse of seizure money he hold a misleading press conference so people think he is a swell guy instead of fessing up about the fact that he is Obligated by law to give that money to the State

The Steroids case lost (now they are being sued)

http://www.mesomorphosis.com/blog/2008/10/09/signature-pharmacy-sues-prosecutor-david-soares/

Recently, (last week)  they lost an arson case appeal
http://www.northcountrygazette.org/2008/10/02/arson_reversal/

Lost the cop case

http://timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=728124

He is not having a good few weeks

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