PO'ed by Soares Actions???


By nitevision, Section Diaries
Posted on Fri Aug 03, 2007 at 06:05:28 AM EST

  Many of us rejoiced when David Soares replaced "Mr. Personality" Paul Clyne.  We envisioned a new beginning for Albany.
  Now many of us are disappointed by the growing controversies and politically driven actions of David Soares.
  Mr. Soares has succeeded at insulting and disrespecting the Albany Police Dept., the Sheriff's Dept. and now the State Police.  See the ch. 10 report - http://www.wten.com/Global/story.asp?S=6879957
His renegade actions may well have jeopardized on-going investigations.
  David, you are getting bad advice.  Stop letting Chris lead you around by the nose.  
  We don't need another self-centered politician prosecuting in Albany.  Before anyone starts attacking Tuffey or Campbell (not my favorites) look at the overall picture.  The DA should have a close working relationship with all police agencies.  They are interdependent.  David is rapidly losing support from his supporters.
* Steroids Case - I have limited knowledge on  
  this subject but can appreciate the damage
  caused by illegal abuse.  Why did David fly to
  Florida with a Times Union reporter and 2
  photographers? A blatant attempt to grab
  headlines? Why was information leaked early on
  about a cop getting steroids and not one name
  of a professional athlete mentioned? Maybe
  Chris D's cozy relationship with reporter
  Brendan Lyons to embarass APD anyway he can?
* Heversi Case - David grabbed headlines on a case
  that was handed to him on a silver platter. His
  office did nothing but accept a case pieced
  together by the State Police & Inspector
  General.
* Drug Laws - David's famous speech in Canada that
  attacked police officers for enforcing the drug
  laws.  He later apologized but that revealed
  his inexperience and immaturity.
* Underage Drinking Case - The State Police asked
  him to hold off.  Chris D. pushed ahead placing
  investigators and patrons in danger.  He could
  have, like the FBI, requested that APD have
  officers on stand-by without revealing details.
* Houtaling Case - tens of thousands of our
  dollars were spent to obtain 2 convictions from
  107 charges???
  Local defense attorneys say David's office is out of control.  They say there is almost no supervision of assistant District Attorneys.  I asked why they don't speak out.  "Are you kidding, I've got to make a living in this town.
The lawyers say many cases fall through the cracks and money is wasted on cases which should never be prosecuted.  Why have so many assistants resigned from David's office in disgust?
  It has become obvious that it's not Campbell or Tuffey or the State Police causing the problem, it is David Soares.
  David, you have forgotten who elected you.  You have betrayed us.  Stop being a politician bent on re-election and get back to honestly representing us.  Chris is not helping you, he is controlling your office.  It hasn't be publicized yet but 90% of Chris' lawsuit has been thrown out by the federal Courts, check it out.  The narrow remaining portion will likely be dismissed as well.  He too is not the hero we thought.

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PO'ed by Soares Actions??? | 13 comments (13 topical, 0 hidden)
your post contains (none / 0) (#1)
by Lame Man on Fri Aug 03, 2007 at 06:32:50 AM EST
  • much criticism of Soares seeking the spotlight.  This may be personally displeasing to you, but it is not a good indicator of his performance as DA.

  • only one link and therefore ...

  • lots of unsupported statements.  "Chris D's cozy relationship with reporter Brendan Lyons" - what's your source?  "Heversi [sic] Case - His   office did nothing but accept a case pieced together by the State Police & Inspector General." - what's your source?  "Chris D. pushed ahead placing investigators and patrons in danger." - what's your source?  "Local defense attorneys say David's office is out of control." - what's your source?  "Why have so many assistants resigned from David's office in disgust?" - what's your source on why people have resigned?  "It hasn't be publicized yet but 90% of Chris' lawsuit has been thrown out by the federal Courts, check it out." - what's your source?

And by the way, the one link you do provide contains this wrap-up statement by WTEN: "The bottom line to all of this: we are told that the D.A.'s raids did not compromise the State Police investigation [...]"  

Now, I know kateb and al are going to assume that this comment is a full-out defense of Soares, but it really isn't.  I just want to see a lot more specifics about what the criticisms are.

Soares (none / 0) (#2)
by kateb on Fri Aug 03, 2007 at 06:48:07 AM EST

First, Lame, you don't need to put words into my mouth.  I can do it.

Nitevision, we're not pals, but your post brought up a couple spontaneous thoughts.

  1.  Check with the TU reporter who writes a lot about the steroids cases.  He is responsive and will clarify.

  2.  It's an open secret that criminal defense attorneys have serious issues with this DA's office.  But it's their livelihood too, so you won't see quotes in the paper.

  3.  I think Soares is relying far too much on D'Alessandro too.  I've experienced the problems it can cause.
Nitevision is Correct About Soares (none / 0) (#11)
by MsFBI on Sun Aug 05, 2007 at 08:00:01 PM EST
All I can say is that we will deal with David come Election Time.

Question has anyone heard that all crimes involving guns, bail is required? That is new to me. I know that alot of kids do carry the plastic guns that look like the real thing. But to charge a person like they have a real gun when in fact it is plastic is a shame. I hear that David Soares made that rule up there in the DA office.


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'Deal' with David (none / 0) (#12)
by champlain on Sat Aug 11, 2007 at 11:09:20 AM EST
Ahhhh, the royal 'we' as in 'we will deal with David come election time.' I love the phraseology.

Sorry FBI and nite, the ol'Democratic machine is fractured, the insurgents and reformers have more power than ever, the suburban technocrats are ascendant; the Conservative party subsidiary of the Dem party is becoming almost totally useless. Again in '08 (as in '04) some real democracy will break out in regard to the Albany County District Attorney race. The folks the D party leaders pick for public office are now regularly subject to very strong challenges both at the primary and general election level (note the victories of Family Court Judge Margaret Walsh and D.A. Soares in '04). The D party leaders are no longer Albany royalty who get to pick and choose who pull the levers of government.

The D party's loyal and subservient subjects are very few and far between these days. More and more Democratic committeepeople are inclined to act more like public citizens who are concerned about merit and good public policy rather than the old style aparatchiks and party functionaries looking for the next boozefest or goon squad dispatch. Jer may try to cut some more deals with the R's in months to come but such moves will further lower his stock and alienate what's left of the royal subjects.

The seamy elements of the Albany establishment will try to push all the panic buttons to stop the young prosecutor, but they fail to realize most of those buttons are no longer connected to anything. They desperately want to control who is the D.A. The racist appeals and fear mongering ginned up by the Jerryites will look ignorant, petty, and will ultimately fall flat. All of Jerry the Tan's republican pals are either out of power (Pataki & Sweeney) or on the ropes because of FBI investigations (Ol' Uncle Joe Bruno) - so Mayor McBoozey's skullduggery and dirty tricks will now be under the microscope rather than covered over by slippery surrogates and a compliant press. Mayor McDrunkenbum no longer can claim to control the Albany County Democratic Party as the Frankie Commisso coup had to be renegotiated and power is now shared with the rising suburbanites. The Mayor's mini-machine in the City is laughable and inept. Soares will have all the election workers and cash he will need to put his case to the voters for re-election. Jerry's thugs will cry, scream and try to spin every Soares success into failure, but the suburbs don't buy Jerry's brand of smear with the racist and good ol'boy undertones. That may have worked in and around Albany 40 years ago, but it's a new century with lots of new voters and newcomers who find Soares to be a very appealing candidate. The suburbs are where the votes are now, the cities can't deliver votes like they used to.

The few Mayoral appointees who have any real skill are huriedly looking high and low for an escape hatch before '09 as Jer will face the voters with an embarrassing record of corruption and mismanagement. A new Democratic governor has a big fat file cabinet full of patronage positions to hand out to people with real skills who are looking to bail from Jerryland.  Mayor Jer is a very diminished force and is becoming ever more irrelevant as the days click by.

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P.S. Thanks Lame (none / 0) (#3)
by kateb on Fri Aug 03, 2007 at 07:03:07 AM EST
for pointing out that News10 link.  I read the story.

This part was eye-popping, a quote from Soares:

"Your source is absolutely wrong," Soares told McLoughlin on a voicemail message before leaving town Thursday - the D.A. suggesting that some police agencies lie about there being an "ongoing" investigation.

"It's easy for us in law enforcement to say that we were doing something, and not in fact have any evidence to support those claims," says Soares.

I see two lies now in this DA's office in my experience; one is when they said an investigation was closed when it wasn't...... It's relevant to what they did later.

Damn, I hate this shit.

Expect a lot more of this (none / 0) (#4)
by champlain on Fri Aug 03, 2007 at 10:26:56 AM EST
Diaries like this picking apart David Soares and Christian D'Alessandro will be more and more common as the 2008 election approaches.

Dozens of members of the Albany establishment are desparate to install a District Attorney that they can control. Several posters here are more than happy to carry that water. My question is why?

If nitevision had been willing to give more sourcing for the diary I'd be willing to give it a more serious read. But most of this diary is rumor, innuendo and trying desparately to take some real success stories and twist them into failure.

It's interesting that there is so little sourcing, because lots and lots of local media, particulary electronic media, give carte blanche to Jimmy Tuffey & Jimmy Campbell and their crews to whack at the District Attorney on a weekly basis. But nite couldn't even show us those stories, just one lone story from WTEN which takes a successful investigation that produced 8 arrests and tries to turn it into a failure.

There have been dozens of stories like this taking shots at the D.A. and questioning the D.A.'s good work - there will be dozens more. It is starting to be clear that the shots at the D.A. will also try to use Christian D'Alessandro for maximum effect.

Note that the WTEN reporter won't reveal who his State Police sources are - why don't you guess who they are and who they are connected to. If they are so outraged why don't they go on camera and give an interview? Nope, they're hiding. I'm not saying there is any conspiracy here - but perhaps you remember Lil' Jimmy Tuffey yapping at the media saying the same stuff about if officers get hurt there will be 'hell to pay' shortly after the Soares raid happened.  But it's not like its coordinated smear or anything. Nah...
http://www.democracyinalbany.com/story/2007/7/24/44257/5302

I've got no problem with a real debate and real dialogue about the District Attorney. I just like to have some real sources before people go off into never-never land. The WTEN reporter makes very clear at the end of the video report that the Soares raid did NOT compromise the St. Police investigation. But that isn't the spin that nitevision gives the story.

There will be a desparate campaign right up until fall of 2008 to discredit the District Attorney and those around him. Several new posters will appear on this site and it will be clear from their posts and diaries that discrediting Soares and D'Alessandro is their main purpose for being here.

This is just the beginning.

Bring your popcorn.

Im not pissed off by Soares (none / 0) (#5)
by alfrednewman on Fri Aug 03, 2007 at 10:40:50 AM EST
I am entertained. Hate Soares or Love him he is provoking the kind of political discussion that is ofter lacking in Albany.

Isnt it wonderful talking about a local politician in terms of his policies and competence instead of how corupt he is or which faction of the party he is alligned with?

Lets chear him on as he learns from his vast array of mistakes and misteps and continue to trash him when we think he deserves it. If Paul Clyne runs again I will be voting for Soares in the primary,
 
"What? Me worry? " "whatmeworry.alfred@gmail.com"

This board is just too sensitive (none / 0) (#6)
by kateb on Fri Aug 03, 2007 at 12:44:22 PM EST

about the DA.

Nobody attacks the 95% of my comments that are positive.  Personally, I don't think Soares is helped by crybaby supporters.

SOARES AGAIN (none / 0) (#7)
by nitevision on Fri Aug 03, 2007 at 02:02:15 PM EST
   Boy, some of you guys are so sensitive.  You just won't even consider some honest criticism of David.  I think you must be Bush supporters.
   Sources - Chris & Brendan Lyons go all the way back to when both were working at Quintesance.  In those days it was rumored that you could get ANYTHING you wanted there.
   Do you really think a TV or print reporter would reveal their sources?  The State Police said they asked Chris not to interfere with their on-going investigation.  You always inject Campbell & Tuffey.  Forget those guys.  David evidently is ticking off every law enforcement group in the county, one by one.  Can they all be wrong?
   Are you dumb enough to think that any lawyer would go public when they need to negotiate with the DA's office on behalf of their clients?  Their income would dry up - c'mon, get real.
   Privately both cops and lawyers would tell you how screwed up the DA's office.  Try talking to them off the record.
   Chris' lawsuit being dismissed.  It's easy, read the court's decision - DUH !!!!!
   I had great hopes for David and thought Chris got a raw deal.  David has disappointed me in becoming just another politician.  Chris should get over his vendetta and move on.  I really hope that both can get back on track for our sake.
   Funny that you didn't mention the cops who charged that woman with 24 felonies and David's office reduced it to one misdemeanor.  Mmmm, those cops worked hard and David slaps them in the face.  Oh yeah, the woman took off from the cops and killed a teenage boy last month.  Maybe you missed that.

david soares (none / 0) (#13)
by awhitmarsh on Mon Dec 17, 2007 at 06:17:50 PM EST
for your info marianna williams who killed that teeneager in her car got 6-12 yrs in state prison. get your facts straight.

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lame alright (none / 0) (#8)
by integritypd on Sat Aug 04, 2007 at 07:02:23 AM EST
There were more APD cops working at quintessnce then just Dalessandro ... including Rich Gould, the steroids guy. Maybe gould is a newspaper source too? Or is just the people you want to single out to further your conspiracy theories. These guys were in college when they were working there twenty five years ago; and half the police force was in that bar on a given night. You should go back further and find out where they all went to grade school. Maybe thats where the conspiracy started.
integritypd
do you believe it really matters (none / 0) (#9)
by kateb on Sat Aug 04, 2007 at 08:43:52 AM EST

what happened in college?  who worked with who 25 years ago?

D'Alessandro is the kind of guy who goes hot and cold on people in a flash of time.  When did he get to know Soares?  '03?

P.S. Due to D'Alessandro's (none / 0) (#10)
by kateb on Sat Aug 04, 2007 at 08:54:34 AM EST

personality type, I strongly recommend any crime victim dealing with the DA's office ask for someone else if he's on your case.  When the man makes mistakes, he disappears instead of facing them.  I think that's a common cop personality, but not so common for most of the rest of us, so it stands out.

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