Please Wake Me Up


By DIA, Section News
Posted on Tue Jul 24, 2007 at 04:42:57 AM EST

So Spitzer's "smartest people" decided to start making up fake FOIL requests to discredit a guy who was currently under FBI investigation for taking bribes. Meanwhile Joe Bruno continues to rip us all off every single day he is in office. And apparently the Times Union editorial board didn't see the NY magazine piece last week that reported that Spitzer illegally funded his run for AG because they claim that he has a "stellar record of integrity". John Sweeney "admits" he lied but according to him it was to protect his marriage not to try to win an election. For fucks sake. We know he is a liar. That isn't news. Remember when he "wasn't drinking" at this frat party? And now Sweeney says although he lied to protect his marriage, and not his job in congress, that he is afraid of his wife. Why is it that what I'm most afraid of is elected officials in Congress? And in case you missed our own local insanity. Watch this video of the police chief threatening the district attorney for arresting underage drinkers. If there is any wonder why Albany is such a joke listen to the police chief say how arresting underage drinkers in bars is dangerous work and how if any of his officers get hurt in the process there will be "hell to pay". This coming from a police chief who oversees a staff that ran over a state police officer last week.

Had enough? No? How about checking out what your favorite unitary executive is up to these days. That should seal the deal. There is something very wrong with this city, state and country. And there are few elected officials on any level willing to speak up and do a damn thing about it.

Update [2007-7-24 4:54:6 by DIA]: Lest I forget, the former convicted Comptroller is trying to say they "lost" those papers that show how he was taking bribes while doling out the pension's $154 billion and he certainly was in no way hooking up his sons with some loot. And his right hand man wasn't fucking wonder woman cat woman some random 60's starlet and using state resources to keep her happy.

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Did you read Fred LeBrun? (none / 0) (#1)
by kateb on Tue Jul 24, 2007 at 05:14:14 AM EST
I checked a couple of your links, not all.

As he said, this is a case where Spitzer's people got caught in "gotcha politics", which he also said we suspected all along.

I love your satire DIA.

But stay with Democrats' mistakes a bit longer.

We need the credibility and to see we all play the same games, right?

Sadly... (none / 0) (#2)
by Citizen McLain on Tue Jul 24, 2007 at 06:20:11 AM EST
I am not cringing or even flinching at all this.  A typical day in the life of Albany politics.  Perhaps I'm jaded.

Whether or not Mr. Sweeney was physically or verbally abused by his wife is likely to be ascertained at some point.  Stories of female on male domestic abuse are rare, so if true, it should be treated with the same respect as male on female abuse.  

Truly, I am enjoying a life of promoting poetry and art in the Delaware Area neighborhood.

Peace.  

Ford, it sounds right (none / 0) (#4)
by kateb on Tue Jul 24, 2007 at 06:31:39 AM EST

Delaware Ave is a good place to spend time.

I don't think we're jaded, but aware.

Also, keep in mind 90% or more cases settle out of court.  A lot of posturing goes on, even without cmaeras and public figures.  As it can go, the Sweeneys are rather tame.

Poetry and art seem the right way to go, IMHO.

I want to write about my last year's experience, and sense a lot of it will be poetry.

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Blah Blah Blah (none / 0) (#3)
by alfrednewman on Tue Jul 24, 2007 at 06:30:32 AM EST
Sweeney lost the election because he was a rotten congressman and ran a bad campaign.  Had he been up in the polls then this would have not been an issue.

The statement about statistics showing that female on male violence being rare is misleading. Stitistics also show that most men will not report getting beaten up by a woman.  

But who cares? Now John can go on to wife number five or six and we can all ignore the Gillibrand Cash Vac and the Democratic Congress's lower than Bush approval ratings.

I agree with DIA, we should all wake up. But when a fair percentage of the electorate cant find the United States on a map and has no clue how the government is supposed to function then why bother?
"What? Me worry? " "whatmeworry.alfred@gmail.com"

vast (none / 0) (#5)
by kateb on Tue Jul 24, 2007 at 06:35:48 AM EST

and that's an understatement, of women don't report either.

Most people center their lives on a place far away from politics, government and police.

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Shitzer (none / 0) (#6)
by Corruptany on Tue Jul 24, 2007 at 03:49:42 PM EST
Come on, did anyone actually think Spitzer was going to change a thing. He is the son of a wealthy real estate developer who used the states money to sue his Harvard buddys to get his name out there on the tax payers dime. I have no respect for the Democratic Party, they are the same as republicans. What angers me most of about the Democrats and people like Spitzer is the fact that they feel like they can get away with anything because once in a while they support something proggressive. None the less, they are no different and this proves it. My friends, this highlights a major problem for those of us who want change. We have no other options, but the status quo lite. We really need to work to get new people who aren't affiliated with any of the parties. Lets look at the Democrats in Albany, they are as bad if not worse then the Republicans. I grew up around these people and they may talk a good game, at the end of the day its about them be it through bribes, patronage jobs, and what not. We need to fight for real campaign finance reform, term limits and work to push a REAL third party made up of all of us left behind by the nonsense. I am not talking about Working Families aka wealthy people pretending to be proggressive, I mean a third party made up of average joes like you and me. We really need to get a grip because at the rate were going, the ideals America was founded on will be dead.

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your straightforwardness (none / 0) (#7)
by kateb on Tue Jul 24, 2007 at 04:05:17 PM EST
is compelling.

Your statement:

I have no respect for the Democratic Party, they are the same as republicans. What angers me most of about the Democrats and people like Spitzer is the fact that they feel like they can get away with anything because once in a while they support something proggressive.

That is EXACTLY what angers me about Soares and his crowd.  What really makes him "progressive" when he attacks critics for his own mistakes, fails to meet with people who have questions, and tell lies about what he will do?  Lies!!

Progressive has to be more than a label.  My leanings are that way, but I see little integrity.


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some thoughts (none / 0) (#9)
by AlfredMoisiu on Tue Jul 24, 2007 at 08:43:35 PM EST
Progressive is to Democrats as Conservative is to Republicans. It's a meaningless term.

Look, nobody in either party gives a shit about what you think. The performance of the current Congress is a demonstration of the contempt that the Democratic Party holds for you, the citizen. "Progressive" is just a nice wrapper that packages many of traditional democratic factions together. It also doesn't roll off the tounge as easily as "liberal", which blunts the affect of talk radio.

As an example, if you think organized labor is progressive, just wait till the UAW negotiations start in the Fall -- big labor will be silent on pollution, improved CAFE mileage, etc. SUVs == Jobs for auto workers, and money for agribusiness.

With the republicans, a bunch of reactionary old money & industrial interests uses the religous fervor of the hardline religious crowd to push their agenda for reduced taxes & regulation, cheap mexican labor and free trade. LBJ was actually the first national candidate to enter into an alliance with that crowd.

Spitzer is a technocrat who believes that the ends justify the means. Soares wants to fight injustice and has intense beliefs about a number of things. The problem that both men run into is that there are powerful, entrenched interests who do not desire change. If you sat in Mr. Spitzer or Mr. Soares chair every day, I think that you would find the experience particularly frustrating.

The great leaders, Teddy Roosevelt and Al Smith, who everyone seems to admire didn't necessarily succeed because they were the smartest or the best. Luck and circumstance have alot of say.

Teddy Roosevelt took advantage of the Democrat-Republican-Tammany split in the legislature. He could get what he wanted by taking advantage of the bloc of votes controlled by Tammany Hall. Someone like David Soares doesn't have that opportunity. The mayor controls the money & patronage in the city, and the suburban wing of the party does whatever it does.

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P.S. (none / 0) (#12)
by kateb on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 05:12:52 AM EST

What is it about law enforcement leaders and lies?

Turley, Tuffey and Soares.

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obligated (none / 0) (#8)
by Breakupthemachine on Tue Jul 24, 2007 at 04:53:28 PM EST
Al, I feel as obligated to post when I agree with you as I am when I disagree. You're right on the money with this one!
~~~~In Vino Vertas~~~~
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So you wanna see a revolution, well you will (none / 0) (#10)
by Corruptany on Tue Jul 24, 2007 at 10:02:23 PM EST
So your essentially saying were all a bunch of wimps then. There are more of us who are dissatisfied with the status quo, yet we sit here and let the power and control of a few people keep us down. I don't think were all lost, the problem with todays world is apathy. Young people don't care, they only care when a rock star comes flying in on his jet and drives his hummer to a concert using alot of electricity to tell them that pollution is bad. Sad reality is that we won't see real change until these people are actually effected. Some people think that time is now because we may be experience hyper-inflation in this country. Its amazing what this did to people in Argentina, maybe its true what Frederick Douglas said, "without struggle their is no gain". Once the shit hits the fan in a few years, we will be a force not to be reckoned with. When it effects the dumbfounded fools in the suburbs, then we will see our revolution.

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progressive (none / 0) (#11)
by DIA on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 04:47:14 AM EST
if you watched the democratic debate the other night you would've heard Hillary say she was not a Liberal but instead considers herself a "progressive".    Make of that what you will.  If she is progressive, I am not.   I also agree that labels mean very little.  Actions are what count.  

I am not talking about Working Families aka wealthy people pretending to be proggressive, I mean a third party made up of average joes like you and me.

If you think the Working Families people are wealthy people pretending to be progressive I can assure you that you have never been to a WFP meeting.   You are insulting a lot of hardworking middle class people who are trying to achieve what you claim to want.  

If you don't think people can have money and agree with you than you will never achieve anything.  Another Republican myth.  25% of the people in this city live below the poverty line.   In light of this fact I consider my self wealthy.   Do you think I should stop what I do because I can afford to make my mortgage payments?  

There is a class war going on in this country.  The poor and middle class are losing badly.  They need all the help they can get.  If you are going to rule out help from anyone who has figured out how to make money in this country, you will lose.

kate (none / 0) (#13)
by DIA on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 05:22:37 AM EST
policy update.  We're not allowed to just spout off whatever we want on this blog.  As I've said before i've heard things about Mayor Jennings that are far less favorable than anything i've ever written about him.  However, I don't have any way of getting those confirmed so I don't report on them.  

Turley, Tuffey and Jennings have all be caught publically in their lies. I can point to third party sources and show that they were lying about important issues.   On this blog you aren't allowed to lump Soares or anyone else in with them just because you say that he told you he was going to write you a letter and didn't (or whatever it is that you claim).   So, abide by the rules if you want to be part of this community.  

thanks

I have sources too (none / 0) (#14)
by kateb on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 06:01:48 AM EST

I'll provide them.

I noticed you set aside complaints about Soares.

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P.S. (none / 0) (#19)
by kateb on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 06:20:52 AM EST

The one thing I didn't do yet -- too busy -- is file a FOIL request, to be sure there's no problem with correspondence sent and not received.  I've given sufficient notice to say confidently that did not happen, but I like to not leave things undone.

These are not little piddly issues, given the subject matter.

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WFP (none / 0) (#15)
by alfrednewman on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 06:08:26 AM EST
DIA:

We all know that those who attend the WFP meetings are not the ones calling the shots. Its the guy with the large checkbook who really runs the show.

The Working Families Party is a lot like the New York State Independence Party in the 90s. It had the structure in place to that made it look like it was an indendent party but in reality Galasano was running the show.

The local committees were taking their direction directly from Galasano's people and nothing was done without the leadership getting clearence from that nasty old bat (with a PhD) in Rochester that was Galasanos girl friend.

The WFP is the same.  Nothing happens without clearence from the top money man.

As for the revolution, its not going to be the idealistic civic minded people who prevale in the next revolt. Its going to be a Hitler style leader who will have rallied the uninformed masses following our economic collapse.

Its coming. When a society willingly cuts the threads that bind us as a people it is inevitable.  The most important of these threads is national and civic pride and a belief that we all belong to a society and that we are, despite differences in ethnicity, the same people.

Our schools aid this by not providing any basic information on who we are (or were) and why people came here.  Ask any recent high school graduate basic civics questions and you will be stunned on what you hear. And it doesnt matter what school they graduated from.

I am willing to bet that 50% of recent graduates in NYS would not be able to describe the structure of our government accurately and 90% would not be able to acurately tell you the relationship between state and federal governments.

Republics always fail and are replaced by dictatorships.  I think that historically the only one that hasnt is Icelands.  

 
"What? Me worry? " "whatmeworry.alfred@gmail.com"

The main thing (none / 0) (#16)
by kateb on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 06:15:31 AM EST

about Soares and WFP is he has to stop making mistakes, become less arrogant, face mistakes, and listen to people who disagree.........

or he can never claim the high road, like people want to claim he has.

Mistakes and arrogance make him mediocre.

you haven't provided them (none / 0) (#17)
by DIA on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 06:16:29 AM EST
ok.  those are my rules.

I don't set aside complaints about Soares.  I may dismiss some I think are baseless, but that is something else entirely.  You have been using my blog to complain about him for over a year now and I have allowed it.  You may want to consider finding another place to continue these efforts.

There is no proof Soares has lied.  Turley admited to lying to cover up an illegal investigation.  The times union reported the Tuffey met with Soares about the steroid taking cop while Tuffey claimed it never happened.  He's lying.  When Mayor Jennings was asked what he was doing to the cops who got drunk and crashed their cars he said they "were no longer working".  That was a lie.

Don't push your luck with how you think you can use my blog.  And stop saying i'm treating Soares differently as if its some kind of fucking revelation.   When Soares starts lying to cover up illegal investigations I'll treat him the same as the other losers I mentioned.  Until then, he gets a bit of respect from me.   Go read old MM Bolton stories if you want to hear someone make shit up about the DA.

it's not a revelation (none / 0) (#22)
by kateb on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 06:28:24 AM EST

DIA, and I'd be on the same road as you but have had quite an interesting well documented year.  I have nothing against Soares, and would have stayed on my Tuffey issues.  I hope Soares does better.

I noticed you called Tuffey a liar without an admission, using newspaper articles with inconsistencies.  Did you ask him if he was quoted accurately?

I don't really care too much, but you lumped it with Turley's admission.  (Partly teasing you....)

Peace.

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al (none / 0) (#18)
by DIA on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 06:19:11 AM EST
who is the top money man behind the curtain?  I'm curious.   And where is your proof this is how it operates.  

Um (none / 0) (#21)
by alfrednewman on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 06:28:07 AM EST
could that be George Soros and family?  Wasnt them the people who gave all that money to Soares?

Hey quick question, why didnt the WFP back Willingham and the other west hill legislator.

"What? Me worry? " "whatmeworry.alfred@gmail.com"
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al, another question (none / 0) (#20)
by DIA on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 06:25:04 AM EST
as a self proclaimed democrat I'm wondering what your problem is with the WFP?  There efforts to protect social security?   Efforts to get affordable healthcare?   Trying to improve education?  

What is it that you oppose?   If middle class people are party of the organization and working for those things, why are you against that?

George Soros (none / 0) (#23)
by DIA on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 06:46:35 AM EST
say no more.

and just (none / 0) (#25)
by alfrednewman on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 07:04:15 AM EST
what the hell do you mean by that?

Did he or did he not underwrite WFP candidates.

I will check later to see if soft money filings are available on the state level.  Lets see how much money is being donated by who.

Also, why no flash about Soares latest and legitimate success against the junkies?
"What? Me worry? " "whatmeworry.alfred@gmail.com"
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Well, yes, Im a self proclaimed democrat (none / 0) (#24)
by alfrednewman on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 06:59:27 AM EST
Although I am starting to think that Monarchy is the way to go.  Lets install Hillary or call up Buckingham Palace and tell them we were only kidding.

I don't have a problem with WFP. I am all for getting people involved in the democratic process.

I am, however, opposed to top-down organizations masquarading as community based organizations. To me it is a cynical as the Newt Gingritch claiming to be for family values.

The WFP is one of the reasons why I think that local level elections should be waged by local level independent parties without outside interfearence.

Bar national parties on the county and municiple level. Lets fight out the local issues without the state and national distractions.

Why should a persons stand on national or state issues be a factor in determining their suitability to be common council members?  
"What? Me worry? " "whatmeworry.alfred@gmail.com"

the system is broken (none / 0) (#26)
by DIA on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 07:11:20 AM EST
we all agree on that.

you said the WFP takes direction from George Soros.   You have no proof other than that he has donated money to WFP candidates.   I look forward to your research showing how Soros runs the WFP.

why bother commenting on something about locking up members of non existent gangs when chief tuffey is saying how scared he is of underage co-eds getting drunk?   If chief tuffey is scared of drunk 19 year old co-eds...I have nothing left to say.

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