Gay Marriage


By DIA, Section News
Posted on Wed Jun 20, 2007 at 05:00:47 AM EST

It's comments like these that make me remember what a pathetic effort Spitzer and the NY Dems made to take the state senate this past year. I would call it 20/20 hindsight on my part except that I was pointing this out well before the election.
After more than three hours of impassioned debate, the Assembly on Tuesday night approved a bill to allow same-sex marriage in New York.

Even though the bill is not slated for discussion in the Senate, proponents said the Assembly action was an important first step if New York is ever to legalize such marriages.
Isn't Bruno's brother gay? Sure must suck to have to pander to these hate groups. Probably turn you into some evil little gnome like Dick Cheney.

So how did your local reps vote?
In the Capital Region, Canestrari and fellow Democrats Jack McEneny of Albany and Paul Tonko of Amsterdam voted for the measure, while Democrat Robert Reilly of Colonie, Republican Minority Leader James Tedisco of Schenectady and independent Tim Gordon of Bethlehem voted against it.
See, Reilly, Tedisco and Gordon listen to people like the Coalition to Save Marriage. This is what they had to say
Today is a sad day in New York’s history and a sad day for New York’s families.

Contrary to the rhetoric of same-sex marriage advocates, the issue of same-sex marriage has nothing to do with civil rights and everything to do with morality. The legalization of same-sex marriage would erode family structures in New York, would coerce religious organizations, public officials, employers, and individuals to violate their consciences by recognizing same-sex marriages, and would place the state’s stamp of approval on family structures that, by definition, deprive children of either a mother or a father. This bill is another example of government passing laws to placate small, vocal special interest groups, regardless of the impact upon the general public.
You know, I think these people have a point. My wife left me this morning for her "best friend" who just so happens to be a woman. I begged her to stay and said, "it only passed the Assembly...can't you wait until the Senate passes it until you let this erode our marriage?". She said there was nothing she could do now but perhaps I should ask Soares or Spitzer for a date since I was always writing about them so much.

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I'm not surprised Reilly voted against it (none / 0) (#1)
by Jrathman on Wed Jun 20, 2007 at 07:28:34 AM EST
disappointed, yes, but not surprised.  I am surprised Gordon voted against it however...

Please tell us it aint so, DIA (none / 0) (#2)
by Jim Travers on Wed Jun 20, 2007 at 02:01:04 PM EST
I hope you're joking about the wife.

Isn't Gordon a Catholic?

It surprises me that he voted against it.

I see the Christians who disapprove of homosexual marriage on moral grounds as being ignorant of the tenets of their own religion.

These contrary Christians want to stand in judgment of Gays and impose their own standard of morality upon them, something they accuse the Gays of trying to do.

Anyone else see this as being hypocritical?

Who was who said "Judgment is mine and mine alone"?

Oh yeah, it was God.

Another fine example of the splendid morality our Christian leaders have brought us can be found in
Iraq, by counting all the thousands of dead and maimed children.

I hope you're listening, Gordon. I'm talking about you.

Gays in Mass (none / 0) (#3)
by Corruptany on Wed Jun 20, 2007 at 04:01:57 PM EST
I was always a big supporter of Gay Marriage until I moved to Massachusetts. Let me clarify, I am not against Gay Marriage, I just think that some of the tactics used to keep people from arguing about the pros and cons of it were uncalled for. In Mass, there was a petition signed by citizens to bring the question of what marriage is on their ballot. 170,000 people signed this petition. Rather then respect these people, the gay supporters cried fraud. Maybe there was, maybe there wasn't but why is it that when someone disagrees with you they are automatically at fault. Soon a group called Know Thy Neighbor came around which put the names and addresses of people who signed the petition online. It was legal but I think it was done more as a way to intimidate people. I knew neighbors of mine (many elderly) who recieved threatening phone calls where they were called Nazis. Now before I get yelled at, I SUPPORT GAY MARIAGE, however I think that everyone has a right to voice their opinion even if its closed minded. If these allegations of harrasment were true, I find it in very poor taste. I am pretty liberal on most issues but I also feel that people who disagree with me should be able to say what they think and have a voice.

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by Corruptany on Wed Jun 20, 2007 at 08:49:02 PM EST
You know I am really torn by this issue. On one end I think it is great because it means equal rights of people. In Mass though I have noticed that the whole gay marriage issue seemed to dominate politics for years. Even worse was the fact that you saw the super wealthy yuppie liberals funnel millions of dollars into this campaign while very little attention seemed to be given on other important issues. New York is a state full of wealthy one issue people and I am sure alot of people can agree with me. I fear that these people will use this as a crusade to get their names in the paper and will focus so much attention on this issue that other issues will be sidetrackerd. I also see it as a way for politicians to gain more political donations as apposed to working to change the pay to play system in Albany. In Mass, many gay and lesbian groups spent millions of dollars and ad campaigns, lobbying and what not. If you look at the past two years you see a state falling apart. Gentrification is out of control, people are fleeing the state and crime is on the rise. Now I don't blame gays for this, I blame politicians for using this issue as a way to campaign and make themselves richer. The last thing we need is a pandoras box opened where the wealthy Manhattanites spend millions on making same sex marriage legal in New York while at the same time we see less and less time and money spent on the social and economic issues destroying our state. I know this sounds bad but it did happen. Why aren't people spending millions in New York to combat real estate developers taking over neighborhoods or trying to revive upstates economy. Millions could be spent to provide a better education to poor kids and to work to combat gangs and violence. You see the wealthy liberals cause as much harm as the Republicans. They pick one issue and make it their crusade so they can get their names in the paper and a pat on the back. I would think this is bad for gay and lesbians because it only turns more working class people against them. I am hoping that New Yorkers take a different route to seeing legalization of same sex marriage while at the same time not forgetting about other issues. I would hope that their side and my side can come together and say "Hey, we want equality, but we are going to do it at the grassroots without spending millions abd cotinuing the status quo of Albany". We can show Albany that real change is done by the people and its doesn't have to be done by ad campaigns and lobbyists. I know at first what I am saying sounds bad but think about it. We need to try to change things while at the same time trying to change the culture of our state. I fear that this issue may take a life of its own and in the neccesity of seeing it passed, it will try to use what always works here.

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