Park South - Rehab Ripoff


By Jim Travers, Section Diaries
Posted on Mon Oct 29, 2007 at 04:35:54 PM EST

You've squandered your savings for years and have finally bought a shell, an empty three storey building needing gut rehab. Congratulations!

Now it's time for you to start work and you put out an RFP, request for proposals, to the get bids for completing the necessary work from area contractors.

So what would you say to the contractors when they all come back with nearly half million dolar estimates, considering of course, that you survive the shock of reading their estimates, especially the one that's estimated the job at costing around $750,000?

The Park South Project has acquired eighteen run down three storey brick buildings from Roger Ploof and plans to rehab the buildings to create 47 "affordable" apartments renting from $600 to $800 a month.

Now, reading the Business Review's article they'd have you believe each apartment would be rehabbed at a cost $8,900, because they don't believe you have the capability to think for yourself.

"Doing a gut rehabilitation of a row house built in the 1890s, while trying to preserve as many of its architectural features as possible, isn't cheap. The contract with Keith Construction is $7.5 million, which works out to about $417,000 per building, or $8,900 per apartment."

Don't try to figure the numbers given, they're wrong.

47 apartments, 18 buildings, $7.5 million dollars.

That works out to be $159,574 per unit.

Not $8,900 per unit, as the article states. Not even ten times that, $89,000 per unit.

But I too, haven't been completely truthful with you.

What you have to realize is the project's overall cost is estimated to be $13.5 million.

47 apartments, 18 buildings, $13.5 million dollars.

The actual cost of rehabbing each of the 47 apartments in the 18 buildings is $287,234, or an average of $750,000 per building.

"When other costs are factored in--such as relocating the previous tenants, architectural fees, working capital during the rental phase and reserves for future operating costs--the total hits $13.5 million, Rogers said."

But don't concern yourself with the cost. Look at all the pretty fireplaces!

"Johnson seems to relish his job as the person in charge of coordinating all of the work. He loves old buildings and is awestruck by some of the details that have survived years of abuse, such as the marble fireplace mantels and decorative fireplace covers in about 10 of the units."

The article would have you believe that ten of the $13.5 million is coming from private investment. But is it really?

Of course not!

The ten million is coming from equity in the Federal Housing Tax Credits the developer has purchased.

I wonder how many units Habitat For Humanity could have developed for $13.5 million?

http://albany.bizjournals.com/albany/stories/2007/10/29/story5.html?b=1193630400^1540293&page=1
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Park South - Rehab Ripoff | 12 comments (12 topical, 0 hidden)
huh? (none / 0) (#1)
by alfrednewman on Mon Oct 29, 2007 at 04:58:07 PM EST
47 apartments for 13.5 Million?

Damn. I am in the wrong business.  I am going to go rehab buildings now
"What? Me worry? " "whatmeworry.alfred@gmail.com"

this is nuts (none / 0) (#2)
by DIA on Mon Oct 29, 2007 at 05:05:09 PM EST
Anyone who knows a thing about buildings should take a walk on that block and look at those buildings and think about those numbers.  I tried to make the groundbreaking with the Honorable Mayor Jennings.  I missed him but was on that street.  Those buildings are solid.  These numbers are way out of line.  

Like Al, I'm in the wrong bizness.

nice work, Travers.

I misquoted the rents (none / 0) (#3)
by Jim Travers on Mon Oct 29, 2007 at 11:04:30 PM EST
The units are planned to be rented for between $500 and $800 a month, not $600 to $800 a month.  Sorry about that.

oh (none / 0) (#4)
by alfrednewman on Tue Oct 30, 2007 at 05:43:38 AM EST
that makes all the difference
"What? Me worry? " "whatmeworry.alfred@gmail.com"
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Integrity, Al. It's Called Integrity... (none / 0) (#8)
by Jim Travers on Tue Oct 30, 2007 at 11:28:44 AM EST
I strive to be honest and always truthful.

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Sarcasm, Jim. Its called sarcasm (none / 0) (#9)
by alfrednewman on Tue Oct 30, 2007 at 12:39:38 PM EST
You can build several hundred luxury apartments.  Maybe they should build Central Towers South.
"What? Me worry? " "whatmeworry.alfred@gmail.com"
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Al, I understood your humorous comment (none / 0) (#10)
by Jim Travers on Tue Oct 30, 2007 at 01:57:27 PM EST
When talking about millions, what's a few hundred?

Right?

Ha, Ha.

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Park South (none / 0) (#5)
by Roscoe on Tue Oct 30, 2007 at 06:05:53 AM EST
This has been done before in Albany.  In the end these projects go bankrupt because of the load of debt. In the interim lots of people make money without really working or risking capital.  Those who are making the money are those who are promoting it, or those who have been duped. We will eventually be led to believe that the politicians were duped, not part of the scheme.  This will not be true, but in a city of sheep, with no fourth estate, the lie will stand.

If instead of this approach there were multiple private investments by people with their own money and effort in individual rehabs, the cost would be far lower. In the past, that approach has been skimmed by the city by requiring specified contractors, who, having a sort of monopoly, and perhaps side expenses, drive the price way up.

Whatever the approach, redevelopment in Albany with a government 'plan' has been historically corrupt, and fails.

The only way to rebuild a city is to reduce taxes, streamline the process, and make rehabs attractive to the individual investor. City Police, Public Safety and General Services support, consistently, to these neighborhoods are also essential. Big ticket ego-projects cannot be allowed to drain tax money.  Performance, not patronage, should be the rule in city departments.

The only successful rehab area in Albany is Center Square, done by individuals before large government solutions -- with kickbacks, financing scams, and other siphoning strategies -- were readily available.  The reaction by the City to long term success in Center Square has been to punitively tax and re-tax, contain the growth, and control the vote.

If instead of the recent reassessment, and current services policies, the city had adopted a lower tax strategy for the entire range of downtown neighborhoods, with rules for redevelopment appropriate for the task, and no other governmental involvement except clean honest oversight, transparent to all, our downtown neighborhoods could have all been rebuilt during the recent, and now past, boom cycle.  

Right (none / 0) (#6)
by alfrednewman on Tue Oct 30, 2007 at 09:09:35 AM EST
Roscoe you cant do large scale rehab or devoplement without government support. Just can't do it.
"What? Me worry? " "whatmeworry.alfred@gmail.com"
Government Support (none / 0) (#7)
by Roscoe on Tue Oct 30, 2007 at 10:14:54 AM EST
This is a self-defining phrase. Perhaps you mean, government money, or, tax money, or, YOUR money? Lean transparent government could work, and support redevelopment. We don't have government in Albany, we have the remnants of government.  There is no level playing field for investors.  There is no coherent tax policy, except, spend more, squander more, and in effect, steal more.

There is still presently a window of economic potentials sufficient to make true sustainable redevelopment happen, without resorting to gimmicks and pig capers.

Perhaps you want to wait until that passes, too.

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Park South/Knox St (none / 0) (#11)
by truthtopower on Tue Oct 30, 2007 at 06:50:54 PM EST
The jury is out on whether the Knox St rehab will be a success or not. While the price tag is high, it can serve as a catalyst for investment and have a significant multiplier effect. The actions that are taken NOW to facilitate a successful Park South Redevelopment will make or break Park South.
    A coordinated deployment of city services ( i.e. policing, codes, home ownership opportunities) would provide a signal to the investment community that the city is serious about redevelopment. Things are decidedly better in Park South now, in part because much of the criminal element has been dispersed. But there is still far too much public drug dealing, and that is the litmus test as to whether or not investment will flow in and a community is to thrive.
   Center Square, by the way, revived in the late 70s in part to the economic incentives that the federal government was providing at that time. The idea that Center Square brought itself up by its bootstraps alone is simply not true.  

Truthtopower (none / 0) (#12)
by alfrednewman on Tue Oct 30, 2007 at 08:29:11 PM EST
Damn straight.  I am sure that all of those buildings that have been rehabbed in the last five or six years are all done with tax payer money.
"What? Me worry? " "whatmeworry.alfred@gmail.com"
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