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By DIA, Section News
Posted on Tue Oct 23, 2007 at 05:37:49 AM EST

Why anyone anywhere would support Hillary Clinton for president is something I can't comprehend. I'm working on it but still am not there. I recommend reading this article showing how the same guy who used a lot of dirty money to get George W Bush elected is doing the same for Hillary. And how this guy has the former head of the DNC on his payroll.

These people are not your friends.

Update [2007-10-23 11:17:38 by DIA]: They say ignorance is bliss right? So, perhaps you should skip the Nation's coverage on Hillary's team and instead just focus on the Times Union's in depth reporting on Clinton.

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Hillary W Clinton | 14 comments (14 topical, 0 hidden)

I'll vote for her if she's the dem nominee (none / 0) (#1)
by Cookie Guggleman on Tue Oct 23, 2007 at 06:10:29 AM EST

Because this country cannot take another 4 years of a Republican president. Are you going to say there's no difference between, say, Guiliani and Hillary?

let me guess (none / 0) (#2)
by DIA on Tue Oct 23, 2007 at 06:22:57 AM EST

you haven't read the article, have you?

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Yes I did. (none / 0) (#3)
by Cookie Guggleman on Tue Oct 23, 2007 at 06:25:38 AM EST

And I still don't want another Republican in the White House.

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neither do i (none / 0) (#5)
by DIA on Tue Oct 23, 2007 at 06:44:45 AM EST

which is the same reason I don't want hillary there.

I'm not a big fan of the "she's better than rudy" argument.

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Then enjoy the Guiliani presidency (none / 0) (#6)
by Cookie Guggleman on Tue Oct 23, 2007 at 07:09:17 AM EST

I sense history repeating itself.

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here is a thought (none / 0) (#7)
by DIA on Tue Oct 23, 2007 at 07:23:02 AM EST

there are other democrats running for the nomination. how about democrats pick one of them instead of hillary? Novel concept, right? Maybe we could discuss the candidates and issues and about how Hillary is connected with these scum and then pick someone else? Or we could be small minded people and tell other democrats that they are going to have to enjoy President Rudy if they dare criticize Queen Hillary.

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: Small-minded...ha! (none / 0) (#9)
by Cookie Guggleman on Tue Oct 23, 2007 at 09:49:11 AM EST

I only said I would vote for her if she were the dem nominee and if not having much tolerance for dems who refuse to vote for Hillary under any circumstance is being small-minded, then so be it. I haven't yet made up my mind about the primary. I am underwhelmed by all the candidates for various reasons.

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Even without reading the article (none / 0) (#10)
by albarbor on Tue Oct 23, 2007 at 10:00:44 AM EST

What has Hillary done for Albany, New York? At least George W. Bush will be straight with the American people. I served in Iraq, the invasion was wrong. One thing George W. Bush did was he went to Hillary Clinton and the U.S. Congress and got them to sign off. Then he told the American people, Saddam and his sons he was invading. Former Mayor John Spencer of Yonkers, New York asked Hillary during the last U.S. Senate race if she planned to run for president. Hillary stated she had no plans to run for president. She knew the entire time she was going to short change New Yorkers. I want Al Gore to run, but to get Hillary out of New York give her the Presidency.

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More Hillary (none / 0) (#4)
by Lame Man on Tue Oct 23, 2007 at 06:30:52 AM EST

More on Hillary's "inner circle":

Burson-Marsteller [PR firm headed by pollster and chief strategist, Mark Penn] is hardly a natural fit for a prominent Democrat. The firm has represented everyone from the Argentine military junta to Union Carbide after the 1984 Bhopal disaster in India, in which thousands were killed when toxic fumes were released by one of its plants, to Royal Dutch Shell, which has been accused of massive human rights violations in Nigeria. B-M pioneered the use of pseudo-grassroots front groups, known as "astroturfing," to wage stealth corporate attacks against environmental and consumer organizations. It set up the National Smokers Alliance on behalf of Philip Morris to fight tobacco regulation in the early 1990s. Its current clients include major players in the finance, pharmaceutical and energy industries. In 2006, with Penn at the helm, the company gave 57 percent of its campaign contributions to Republican candidates.
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As expected with such a lineup, B-M has a highly confrontational relationship with organized labor. "Companies cannot be caught unprepared by Organized Labor's coordinated campaigns," read the "Labor Relations" section of its website (until it was scrubbed after Mark Schmitt of The American Prospect quoted the language in March). It consults frequently with George Washington University professor Jarol Manheim, author of The Death of a Thousand Cuts: Corporate Campaigns and the Attack on the Corporation and Biz-War and the Out-of-Power Elite: The Progressive-Left Attack on the Corporation. And it lends help to some of the most controversial union-busting efforts in America.

So that America can look like France (none / 0) (#8)
by albarbor on Tue Oct 23, 2007 at 09:12:29 AM EST

Hillary wants to turn America into France. Then she is going to ask our enemies to play nicely or we are going to have to get the Chinese to protect us. What has Hillary done for Albany? I know she just gave the famous "Woodstock" county a one million dollar earmark. Hillary should be at the forefront of the abandoned building and housing debate in Albany. She is not, because she is owned by the same lobbyist that own Spitzer. While she was lying and campaigning for President, New York was continuing to fall apart. I hope she does win the presidency so that she her and Bill can get out of New York.

Party Hacks (none / 0) (#11)
by Uncle Sam on Tue Oct 23, 2007 at 07:51:34 PM EST

It has to be a Democrat...we can't stand another 4 years of Republican rule...what nonsense.

Wake up, open your brains and look at each candidate based on the issues, their platforms, and what you believe in.

There's a hell of a difference between Ron Paul and Guiliani as there is between Hillary and Kucinich.

So if you are a Kucinich supporter and it's Paul and Clinton in the final, who do you vote for?

: nice talking points (none / 0) (#12)
by DIA on Tue Oct 23, 2007 at 08:17:57 PM EST

there was a story today about kucinich saying aliens talked to him.
RonPaul as the Repub candidate? You smoke crack, right?
I like Dodd, Edwards and Obama. I hope i get the chance to vote for one of them. Perhaps the rich white poeple who face none of the problems of average americans but get to choose our candidates will give me the option of voting for one of them. Not likely. But it won't be the first time i've been let down by rich white people
if the democrats choose hillary the only hope they have is that the republicans have no candidate at this point. but if the dems choose hillary, he repubs work will be done.

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Experience counts... (none / 0) (#13)
by Uncle Sam on Tue Oct 23, 2007 at 08:24:08 PM EST

Kucinich is on his third wife and has to manage that bombshell. Maybe he is fit to run the country.

He has a nice spread on her with lots of pics on his website. Pretty funny...

third wife (none / 0) (#14)
by DIA on Tue Oct 23, 2007 at 08:43:24 PM EST

so is rudy. perhaps we can have a new values party that values multiple marriages. Or, if romney gets the nod, we can just greenlight multple wives.

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