Chief Tuffey's Last Job


By DIA, Section News
Posted on Mon Oct 01, 2007 at 05:15:22 AM EST

Anyone remember how Chief Tuffey did at his last job? Before getting to that let's touch on how he is doing at his current job.
The anger perhaps reached a crescendo Tuesday when Mesley told WRGB Ch.6 that officers "hate" the chief. Mesley later, in an interview on WROW-AM 590, said he regretted using such a strong word.
So, he isn't going over so well with his employees. Here is a column Fred Lebrun wrote about how Tuffey was doing in his former job working for George Pataki. From the Times Union.
DEC OFFICIAL GOES OUT WITH A BANG Tuesday, July 15, 2003 Page: B1

Bob Henke hadn't planned to retire -- soon, but not just yet.

The well-known North Country lieutenant in the state Department of Environmental Conservation's Division of Law Enforcement had been out with a bad Achilles tendon, but had hoped to be back at his desk in Warrensburg by mid-June.

What he says changed his mind speaks directly to a growing discontent statewide among the division's field staff, the environmental conservation officers and forest rangers. Among the criticisms they voice is that the department is changing radically, to the detriment of the natural resources they are sworn to protect. Conservation officers complain that they are woefully understaffed -- down 25 officers for a corps of about 250. For both ECOs and forest rangers, the major complaints involve new regulations keeping them to a 9-to-5 job, micromanaged by bosses in Albany who don't know the field. Traditionally, their mandates and priorities have been self-directed by local complaints and seasonal needs.

Henke submitted his letter of resignation in early June and made it public.

``This is the most difficult piece of writing I have had occasion to do in my nearly three decades of service with the Division...

``The final straw was applied when I sat in a recent CFAB (Conservation Fund Advisory Board) meeting and listened to Jim Tuffey's report.''

Tuffey is head of the Division of Law Enforcement. ``He essentially blamed all Law Enforcement's ills on inadequacy, unprofessionalism, and the ineptitude of the ECOs,'' Henke wrote.

``When my planned response to this nonsense was canceled at the last moment due to our union's leadership's fear of political reprisals, I had a bit of an epiphany and realized with great clarity that a change of venue was absolutely necessary.''

Henke went on to capsulize his complaint with the drift of his department. It's an articulate boiling down of complaints I've heard from nearly every region.

``However, at this point, with management that is 1) not only unsupportive of field staff but actually adversarial 2) possessed of virtually no grasp of key principles concerning community policing, rural deployment, and staff development and 3) lacking knowledge of and commitment to key environmental principles, I must conclude there is, at this time, no chance of having a positive effect on our natural resources from within this agency.''

Henke's letter is a scorcher.

How fair or accurate is it? That's hard to say, but I know I have never heard the level of grumbling from the ranks of forest rangers and ECOs that I'm hearing today. Jim Tuffey offers a stout defense of some of this, and an acknowledgment that perhaps certain new restrictions keeping the ECOs and rangers from their traditional routes and chores need to be re-examined. That's going on right now with the union leaderships, he said Monday.

``I absolutely did not question the professionalism of my field officers at the CFAB meeting as Lt. Henke says. That's not true. I take every chance to praise the work they do. What I did talk about was how their union leaders didn't give us a chance to negotiate,'' Tuffey added.

Jim Tuffey insists that most of the frustration and anger being expressed publicly by his field staff comes because a memorandum of understanding that guaranteed them certain flexibility and overtime has lapsed. Tuffey blames the unions for the lapse. The unions say problems in DEC law enforcement are wide and Jim Tuffey's in the middle of it.

Is this the last word on the subject? Not even close. This is one major state government dust-up that won't be going away anytime soon
Any of that sound familiar?

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I have a tough time (none / 0) (#1)
by kateb on Mon Oct 01, 2007 at 05:59:09 AM EST

with the police unions and the top cop.  Trust me, they will be kissy face when the contract is signed, and a couple of them will even follow illegal orders from the chief.

I respect a man who speaks up knowing he's retiring, this DEC Lt. Heinke, takes the heat off someone under more pressure who wants to stay.

I also sense a lot of honesty in the Albany police union saying it's young cops who mostly reject Tuffey's leadership style.  (The man is RUDE.)

But why do we only hear complaints from cops when their contracts are being negotiated?

And then we wonder later how to work our budget and taxes.

Complaints (none / 0) (#2)
by FedUp on Mon Oct 01, 2007 at 06:10:39 AM EST
I agree, Kate.  One can only hope that leaders like Tuffey who rule by being a bully and who are caught in lie after lie will be replaced by these well-educated younger cops coming up through the ranks.

I think I can address your complaints comment - Albany PD and the NYS DEC are paramilitary organizations.  There are SOPs in place that say that if you speak out negatively in public you will be disciplined for "insubordination".  The officers can only speak out through the union.  

Anyone know what happened in Colonie when Tuffey was head there?  He's set back the APD and DEC a decade, how about Colonie?

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Encon (none / 0) (#3)
by alfrednewman on Mon Oct 01, 2007 at 07:22:29 AM EST
However, at this point, with management that is 1) not only unsupportive of field staff but actually adversarial 2) possessed of virtually no grasp of key principles concerning community policing, rural deployment, and staff development and 3) lacking knowledge of and commitment to key environmental principles, I must conclude there is, at this time, no chance of having a positive effect on our natural resources from within this agency.''

I think you highlighted the wrong sentance. Who cares if a law enforcement officer is committed to environmental principles.  The fact that this sentance was included in the list of grievences makes me question what the real motives were here.

I am not sure why its a bad thing to have the police union angry with the Cheif. Afterall its the union membership who have been out of line here.  
"What? Me worry? " "whatmeworry.alfred@gmail.com"

IF a department of Environmental Conversation (none / 0) (#4)
by kateb on Mon Oct 01, 2007 at 07:36:09 AM EST
officer is not committed to key environmental principles, who does the enforcement?

"Who cares if a law enforcement officer is committed to environmental principles."

Read the law some day, all the crimes under the EnCon law.  It's pretty interesting.

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Kate (none / 0) (#5)
by alfrednewman on Mon Oct 01, 2007 at 09:06:33 AM EST
You can be enforce the ENCON laws without being committed to the envorinmental cause.
"What? Me worry? " "whatmeworry.alfred@gmail.com"
Huh??? (none / 0) (#6)
by FedUp on Mon Oct 01, 2007 at 09:54:58 AM EST
How on earth do you enforce the ENCON laws without being committed to the environmental cause?  The primary duty of the Encons is to enforce the environmental laws..if they don't commit to upholding the laws on the books then they are in the wrong job.  We're not talking about committing to radical environmental groups who sometimes resort to breaking the current laws to get their point across.

It's like saying that you can be an Albany PD officer without being committed to protecting citizens/ upholding the criminal laws.  I'm either missing your point or we're going to have to agree to disagree on this one.

The unions serve a purpose especially when you run up against a chief with a managerial style (dictatorship) like Tuffey's.  Neither side should be ramming agendas through.  It's a give and take; something that Tuffey's not very good at.  

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you're wrong Alfred (none / 0) (#7)
by kateb on Mon Oct 01, 2007 at 10:54:54 AM EST

Officers have to know the law, care about the law, have the background to gather appropriate evidence, and -- trust me on this -- in our more urban counties have to have amazing advocacy skills to get prosecutors to pay attention.  Spend some time in Rensselaerville and tell me how far it is from Albany. The same DA.

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FedUp (none / 0) (#8)
by alfrednewman on Mon Oct 01, 2007 at 11:15:55 AM EST
You have to be committed to enforcing the laws, not hugging trees. Are you seriously telling me that you expect a ENCON officer to be a card carying member of the Siera Club before you think they can do their job?
"What? Me worry? " "whatmeworry.alfred@gmail.com"
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Al, it's a passion for the job that determines ... (none / 0) (#9)
by Jim Travers on Mon Oct 01, 2007 at 11:46:07 AM EST
ones effectiveness in carrying out the task at hand, regardless of their job.

Suppose two Encon cops, one with a passion for protecting the environment and the other without such a passion, at different times and in different places notices some guy taking a leak into a stream.

While both may wind up ticketing the guy, the one with a passion for preserving the sancity of our natural places would probably issue him a ticket for polluting the stream and the other may issue him one for public lewdness.

Which one is fulfilling their job title duties requiring the protection of the environment?

They are both enforcing the law, but one realizes the offender's damage to the environment and the other does not.

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Keep drinking man... (none / 0) (#24)
by AlfredMoisiu on Mon Oct 01, 2007 at 07:41:32 PM EST
Encon ECOs enforce hunting and fishing laws, chemical spills, illegal dumping and even some stormwater issues.

Your "Hugging trees" crap is a red herring.

A long time ago I worked as a subcontractor for a guy who had been a Marine General. He didn't know jack shit about the work that my company does, but made sure to solicit our counsel when he needed to make decisions for the project.

If you force park rangers and ECOs to chase speeders and DUIs, and starve resources from the core mission of your agency, what kind of message does that send? If the cadre of career experts in their fields all disagree with you, what does that mean?

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Sure Jim, right (none / 0) (#10)
by alfrednewman on Mon Oct 01, 2007 at 12:45:13 PM EST
Damn, so you found out about the photo of me taking a wizz into the river at Plattsville and sending it to New York City's DEP telling them what I thought of their fucking over the residents of the up in the mountains so the city can avoid puting in the required water treatment plants...

Jim, would you be equally enthusiastic about a crusading Albany cop who used the full extent of the law while on patrol in the west hill?  

Probably not.

A long time ago I had to deal with the Adirondack Park Agency.  If you were not committed to complete nonsence of the New York City transplanted "environmentalists" they would simply rake you over the coals.  I was doing a soil survey and they tried to get me to file a foil request for every single parcel of land in a forty or fifty square mile section before they would give me a overlay for the whole thing.

 
"What? Me worry? " "whatmeworry.alfred@gmail.com"

AL, surely you've realized it was a ... (none / 0) (#11)
by Jim Travers on Mon Oct 01, 2007 at 02:51:45 PM EST
... hypothetical situation I posed. And frankly, to take the two out of that department and place them in the APD, one busts a kid for selling drugs and the other 'confiscates' his contraband and lets the kid go.

Which would you rather see patrolling your neighborhood?

Yeah, I'd like to see the cops use the full extent of the law to get the bad guys wherever they are in the city, especially those crooks in their own dept. and in city hall!

But let's not forget who the real bad guys are here. That kid's getting his drugs from somewhere and more often than not he's being used by a 'Big Time' dealer who knows if the kid gets busted, he's a juvie and won't do any serious time, whereas is the dealer was selling on the street and was busted, he'd get Big Time in the joint.

Oh, and Al, let's not get too wound up in these... (none / 0) (#12)
by Jim Travers on Mon Oct 01, 2007 at 03:02:50 PM EST
side arguments that have little to do with DIA's post.

Tuffey is a bully and he's proud of his rep. He's spent a lifetime developing that tough guy personna.

The only thing that's wrong about his tactics, whether dealing with the union or the public, is that that style of management went out with spats. (maybe the seventies in Albany)

I'd much rather see an educated and knowledgeable chief at the helm than a bully.

What example does he project to the younger rookies for them to aspire to?

Although, Tuffey just might be grooming Bonanni to be Albany's next police chief. Hey, ya never know.

Jim (none / 0) (#13)
by alfrednewman on Mon Oct 01, 2007 at 04:05:12 PM EST
Seems to me that the anti-Tuffy people want it both ways.  They want a Chief who will keep the police in line while getting along with them.

I think that Albany's police union has showen that we are better off with a buffy then a push over.

Or do you think that the union would have agreed to change their drinking on the job stand if the Cheif had only said "please".
"What? Me worry? " "whatmeworry.alfred@gmail.com"

al (none / 0) (#14)
by DIA on Mon Oct 01, 2007 at 04:18:23 PM EST
what change about drinking on the job?  You mean how they now have to report themselves if they are at work and drunk?   yeah, tuffey is working miracles.

Being an asshole can work if you have total power over your subordinates.  I think its a bad way to run an organization but it is one way.  but it really only works if you have total control.    Tuffey doesn't have that.   This isn't bootcamp.   Its not his personal company.    The guys on the force will be here longer than him, they know it, and i'm sure they don't mind seeing him fail and blunder like he does.

its a bad way to do business in his position.  

So, based on his record working for Pataki would he have been your first choice to run the APD?


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DIA (none / 0) (#15)
by VoiceOfReason on Mon Oct 01, 2007 at 04:32:16 PM EST
     You can disagree with the Chief all you would like regarding the policies he has enacted.  This is a free society and you have the right to be dissatisfied.  But, you have to respect the man.  He goes out there everyday and puts his life on the line so you have the right to disagree with his policies.  Remember that.  

VoR  
"Those who deny freedom to others, deserve it not for themselves; and, under a just God, can not long retain it." -Abraham Lincoln
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puts his life on the line? (none / 0) (#16)
by DIA on Mon Oct 01, 2007 at 04:44:22 PM EST
Are you kidding?     That is an insult to the cops who are actually out there trying to enact his failing policies.

You find me a link to any police chief anywhere in the US who has been killed in the line of duty in the last 10 years and you might have a point.  

There are some simple rules in life, VOR.  Respect is earned.   Tuffey is hated by the people who work for him who go out and deal with the bullshit in this city every day.    Obviously he doesn't know how to earn their respect.   And I've seen him in action and listened to his empty promises.   He also hasn't earned mine.  

I will give you credit.  You picked one of the funniest user ID's ever.   Remember that.

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Respect must be earned (none / 0) (#17)
by FedUp on Mon Oct 01, 2007 at 05:09:35 PM EST
Respect is not something you can command or order, it's something you earn.   All of the best managers know this.  Tuffey is his own worse enemy by being a micro manager and bully.  You don't earn respect by yelling, lying publicly, and using one set of rules for yourself / another for everyone else.  

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DIA (none / 0) (#18)
by alfrednewman on Mon Oct 01, 2007 at 05:22:27 PM EST
FOXNEWS.COM HOME > U.S.

Kentucky Police Chief Shot Dead by Prisoner in Cruiser
Wednesday, June 13, 2007

By Adam Riback

 E-MAIL STORY PRINTER FRIENDLY VERSION
CLAY CITY --  A man who was arrested for driving while under the influence fatally shot a Clay City Police Chief from the back seat of the police cruiser while he was driving.

Randy Lacy was pronounced dead at the scene where his cruiser veered off the road after he was killed behind the wheel

"What? Me worry? " "whatmeworry.alfred@gmail.com"
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linky (none / 0) (#21)
by DIA on Mon Oct 01, 2007 at 06:48:53 PM EST
??

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Linky Dinky Do (none / 0) (#22)
by alfrednewman on Mon Oct 01, 2007 at 07:08:54 PM EST
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,281921,00.html
"What? Me worry? " "whatmeworry.alfred@gmail.com"
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Al, good find ... (none / 0) (#19)
by Jim Travers on Mon Oct 01, 2007 at 05:50:13 PM EST
He was probably a bully who was hated by the officers serving under him.

Maybe one got even?

Nope (none / 0) (#20)
by alfrednewman on Mon Oct 01, 2007 at 06:13:17 PM EST
Some drunk in the back seat.
"What? Me worry? " "whatmeworry.alfred@gmail.com"
al (none / 0) (#23)
by DIA on Mon Oct 01, 2007 at 07:11:56 PM EST
 the population of the town .you mention is 1,358.    While it is a bad thing that this man got shot, this isn't a good example of what a chief does in a small or big city.    this chief was making arrests because he was out patrolling.   tuffey has 350 employees to do that for him.

the only time tuffey has been out on the streets was when he responded to that saturday evening single car accident where he failed to give the driver a breath test.    And the only reason he was there was because his boss ordered him there.  And, as you know, his boss also was the one who crashed the car.

al, you are losing credibility.   but the jokers you are defending certainly aren't helping you with their behavior.

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DIA (none / 0) (#25)
by alfrednewman on Mon Oct 01, 2007 at 08:54:07 PM EST
You didnt ask for a compairable sized city.

The bottom line for me is this:

The Albany Police Department has been a mess for years. The conduct of many of the police officers is inexcuseable. The conduct of the union hasnt been much better.

If the chief is doing things to make the rank and file more accountable for their actions then I cant help but to see that as a good thing.

Can we have a better police chief? Sure.  Have we had a hell of a lot worse over the past several decades? Absolutely.

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AM: I hold a sportsman license and have a lot of respect for most of the ENCON officers that I have delt with. Most of them are nice guys- as long as you are following the law. Which is fine.  

There are a couple that I have come across who have been a little more rabid in their enforcement as are the people up in Raybrook.  My experience with the environmentalist has effected how I view them.  Many of them simply go to far.  

I do not have a problem with ENCON officers questioning the management style of their command. I do have a problem with an ENCON officer questioning the commitment of his command to environmental principles.  Frankly, it has absolutely nothing to do with the job. If I am correct Tuffy's job was law enforcement and not advocacy, right?

And Alfred: it doesnt really mean anything to me if a cadre of career whatevers disagree with what I say if they are taking a stand that is inconsistent with the jobs they are supposed to perform.

In this case the comment was that Tuffy was "lacking knowledge of and commitment to key environmental principles"

What does this have to do with what is effectively law enforcement? I take issue with the commitment to key...principles" bit, not when he says that Tuffy was a rotten manager.

 
"What? Me worry? " "whatmeworry.alfred@gmail.com"

Some thoughts to consider.. (none / 0) (#26)
by hawkny on Tue Oct 02, 2007 at 05:19:12 AM EST
LeBrun is a self styled "conservationist" who occassionally writes about DEC, with insider access to information. Henke, for years, was an insider.

Henke, a DEC officer for 30+ years, operated, unsupervised, out of his house in Warrensburg, some 70 miles north of Albany.  If he started his day 30 minutes late,  or cut his workday short, whose to know?  In other words, he had a nice "gig" going for himself, drawing down, say, $80K a year with bennies, doing his own thing.  Cost of living in upper Warren County is comparatively cheap. He, by the way, knows LeBrun, a canoer, long time.

 Tuffy, a city person, from birth, gets the "supervisory" job, and starts to put some pressure on the free wheeling officer corps to "perform" to higher, beaucratic standards.

Henke doesn't like having someone from Albany, at DEC, leaning on him, calling him down the Northway, for meetings, performance reports, etc..

Henke sees the hand writing on the wall..and, says, "F--k this!"  I am going to take my Tier I pension, bennies, and do other things, like go hunting!

On the way out, he takes his parting shots at Tuffy" (the bastard who leaned on him...all the way up to Warrensburg).  He's got his pension, what does he care?

LeBrunn doesn't like Tuffy.  He hasn't for years, going back to when Tuffy was union chief at the APD, and, later, chief of the Cohoes PD.

Seems like a matter of mutual dislike "symbiosis" that has little to do with the "principles" of DEC (DEC Regulations?)which Tuffy probably read before he took the job...

Lebrun doesn't like tuffey? (none / 0) (#27)
by DIA on Tue Oct 02, 2007 at 05:32:02 AM EST
Perhaps I've been reading different columns the last year and a half?  I'd hate to think what we'd be reading if Lebrun liked the guy.  

I thought this provided some good insight into our man's background.   I still think that.  While you may not agree, I do believe you should be worried that the head of the union says that the cops hate the chief.   Perhaps you don't agree with that either.  

Hawk (none / 0) (#28)
by kateb on Tue Oct 02, 2007 at 06:07:36 AM EST
I was with you, allowing for a different perspective (there always is one), until you got to LeBrun not liking Tuffey for years.   Go read the columns LeBrun has written since Tuffey was named for his current job.  He got a nice column before he did a day of work.  I'm not the only one who noticed that.  ("Why does he want to curry favor with a cop?")

I think (none / 0) (#29)
by alfrednewman on Tue Oct 02, 2007 at 06:49:38 AM EST
Henke is now the town of Argyle super'.

DIA: I always hated my store manager when I was young. He would dock me for showing up late, yell at me for being out of dress code, and the bastard had the nerve to schedule me when he needed me not when I wanted to work.  If only he would have allowed me to do what I wanted when I wanted to do it I would have liked him a lot better.

I suspect that many of the police who "hate" the chief hate him for the same reason why I hated that idiot that I used to work for. My understanding is that one points of contention, besides the union thinking that the officers whould be able to work drunk or be hungover, is that the chief told them that they would be scheduled when they were needed, not when they wanted to work.
"What? Me worry? " "whatmeworry.alfred@gmail.com"
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Hey Al - (none / 0) (#31)
by FedUp on Tue Oct 02, 2007 at 03:22:24 PM EST
A good manager listens, figures out what the problems are, and addresses them.  There are those who don't do their job in any line of work, the 20% who cause 80% of the problems.  A good manager focus on the 20%.

Tuffey comes in with his micromanaging "everyone's corrupt and I'm the one to clean house, and I've been a police officer for 25 years so I have all the answers" attitude.    You don't schedule ENCON police to work 9 - 5; you monitor to make sure that the are putting the time in on a weekly basis and review the work products. That way you quickly identify and deal with the minority who are hanging out in their house watching  court TV.

Want to destroy morale and reduce effectiveness in any organization?  Take a lesson from Tuffey.  

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LeBrunn & Tuffy.. (none / 0) (#30)
by hawkny on Tue Oct 02, 2007 at 07:41:10 AM EST
My thoughts about this relationship go back 18-20 years ago.  I can't remember Fred LeBrunn having anything positive to say about Tuffy, the APD or Whalen's  police chief that time (Dare, wasn't it?).

Fed Up (none / 0) (#32)
by alfrednewman on Tue Oct 02, 2007 at 04:20:54 PM EST
Good point. If its a complaint about management style then that is certainly legitimate and fair game. I am sure that urban policing tactics will not be effective trying to catch poachers and dumpers.
"What? Me worry? " "whatmeworry.alfred@gmail.com"
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