New Albany Dem Election


By DIA, Section News
Posted on Thu Dec 14, 2006 at 07:19:37 AM EST

Remember after they had the illegal election that Frank Commisso won. Remember what Fred Lebrun said
It happened fast and dirty, and left the Bosworth folks stunned and outraged. They complained about fraud and the disenfranchisement of the voter; about a tainted election and so on. In other words, they got outflanked.
Word is a judge has ruled the election illegal and they will have to have another one that is actual legal. What would that be considered? Overflanked? Royally flanked? Slow and legal? Justice?

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New Albany Dem Election | 12 comments (12 topical, 0 hidden)
good news (none / 0) (#1)
by kateb on Fri Dec 15, 2006 at 05:07:54 AM EST
if it turns out to be true.

Should be a fiesty new election.

Happy Days Are Here Again (none / 0) (#2)
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An Honest Election? (none / 0) (#3)
by nitevision on Fri Dec 15, 2006 at 06:56:53 AM EST
This can't be happening - a judge actually wants an honest election in Albany county.

Puppet #1 - Betty Barnett exits, Puppet #2 - Frank Commisso pulls a fast one to steal control.  Now back to square one for a do-over.  The real question is how many committee members can Frank intimidate before a new election is held?  I think it's time to circle the wagons to keep those Godless suburbanites from influencing the county committee.  Where is Joe Jennings and Jamie Gilkey when you need them?  That's it, all committee members should be forced to vote on absentee ballots which will be collected by Joe and Jamie.  We're Democrats, so why would you think that Frank doesn't have a plan.

pla-eeze! (none / 0) (#4)
by mailer daemon on Sat Dec 16, 2006 at 05:52:41 AM EST
Commisso doesn't intimidate, look to the other side for that.  I can count many voting members who were called in a liquor enduced rant and told their jobs were threatened if they did not vote Bosworth. That is typical behavior from the bullying Breslins.

So if Bosworth wins in a new vote you will have a Breslin puppet in office. That will be a real shame. If you think Bosworh was picked by the Breslins for his independant voice you need to think again.

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Commisso doesn't intimidate? (none / 0) (#8)
by alfrednewman on Sun Dec 17, 2006 at 09:39:46 AM EST
Of course he does. He is one of the few people that I would not want to piss off.  I have heard stories about him.

Here is the problem here in Albany. Far too many of our poliical leadership and committee people can get the "phone call."  Thats what happens when most of them work for either the city, county or the state. I suppose its a good thing for the Mayor that the Republicans kept the Senate or Sen Breslin would have more influence in city committees.

I am not convinced that replacing Commisso is going to be good for the Albany County Democrats in the long run.

By having a joint committee of County and City, under the city control it forces both urban and suburban to compromise and follow platforms which both constintuencies can accept.

If Commisso is replaced the natural result is that the city and county committees will seperate and their agendas will also seperate and probably clash.

The county committee will go to the right, and the city committee will go further to the left and loose the political center.

 
"What? Me worry? " "whatmeworry.alfred@gmail.com"
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Commisso? or Bosworth? (none / 0) (#5)
by nitevision on Sat Dec 16, 2006 at 08:58:32 AM EST
OK, if you think Bosworth is a Breslin puppet and others think Commisso is a Jennings puppet, what can we do?

How about finding a new third candidate who will energize and revitalize the Democratic committee?  Stop the in-fighting and return the party to a formidable active political force.  Set aside all the selfish maneuvering and find someone to reunite the party.  Sound like a plan?

Sure that would be great (none / 0) (#12)
by threequarters on Wed Dec 20, 2006 at 05:24:17 PM EST
That would be great all right. Sounds like you've never gone door to door for a non-machine candidate. "Yes, that's wonderful, he certainly seems very qualified, but I have to vote for Mr. Machine Candidate because I/my son/my daughter/my friend/my maiden aunt works with him/is on the football team he coaches/works for the city/county/lives on his street. No, I can't name a single thing Mr. Machine's ever done, but what does that matter? He looks great in those photos on the six glossy mailers we've gotten from him so far. Looks like a real nice guy, he does."

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has this been reported in a newspaper? (none / 0) (#6)
by Excelsior1686 on Sat Dec 16, 2006 at 09:54:19 AM EST
If so, do you have a link to a story?  Or is this just a rumor at this point?

not reported (none / 0) (#7)
by DIA on Sat Dec 16, 2006 at 10:56:22 AM EST
the latest info i have is this:

the judge told BOTH parties in the lawsuit that he will order a new election if they couldn't work out a compromise within 7 days.  

I wouldn't hold my breath waiting on a compromise, but you never know.  Perhaps the times union feels you don't need to know about this until the final decision is made (after the 7 days).  

Just because it is here and not in the "real" paper doesn't mean its a rumor.   the story about the mayor crashing his car appeared here first as well.

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New Albany Dem election (none / 0) (#9)
by hawkny on Sun Dec 17, 2006 at 06:57:26 PM EST
Hmmm...Very interesting, if true.  How does one anticpate two candidates vying for the same office to work out a compromise?  A co-chairmanship? "You have the first six months...I'll take the remainder of the year?" Any rumors?  Any thoughts?

The comments about the county committee splitting seems very real...the only problem is...who will organize a city committee?  If Jennings tries to do it..I, for one, don't think it will be too successful or last very long.  His brother used to do his leg work but he quit and retired to Florida, didn't he?
He, Jennings, has been mayor long enough to have built quite a long list of political enemies.  Who would he designate as chairperson, Betty Barnette, again? How about Joe Montana or the D'Antonio brothers? Oh, brother! Hold onto your "you know what"!

Lottsa people don't even consider Jennings to be a Democrat any more, having supported Republicans like he has...He's a maverick independent in many a Democrat's eyes.

As for Breslin, he too has been around for more than a decade so he has his share of enemies too, especially in the city of Albany.  What happens if he decides to retire or take an appointment from the new governor?  Will Dave Bosworth, his purported puppet, automatically fall, if he is Breslin's chairman?  And, Breslin is really an arch conservative in Democrat's clothing.  That won't sit well with liberals and progressive Democrats in the city, will it?  

Sounds to me like the County Democrats are trying to kill the golden goose!  Their overwhelming success against the Republicans has made them turn on each other, and turn on their fellow city Dems...

Some other instantaneous thoughts about the future...

Come election time...do county committee people do campaign work in the city wards, for city candidates.  For themselves?

Will candidates seeking endiorsements for city races have to go to two committees?

Who would be the designated ward leader in each ward?  Someone from the county committee or the city committee?  Would there be two ward leaders in each ward, from each organization?  What a mess!!

IMO,this judge here must be a Republican!

But, then again, the committee system, in Albany, has been languishing for a long time...this might just be the straw that breaks the camel's back in so far as traditional, organized city politics is concerned.  It looks like it could be every man, woman and child for themselves...from now on.

I just can't imagine Guilderland's Dave Bosworth wading into some of the neighborhood political structures and issues with his middle class, suburban background.  He will be completely out of his league in that kind of element..especially if there are forces at work trying to undermine him...good night, Irene..and good luck Mr. Bosworth.
ps.  I think Commisso would do a good job, if given the opportunity.  Why? Because he understands city politics better than anybody does, and he is a worker...He won't ask anyone to do anything that he himself hasn't already done.


I understand (none / 0) (#10)
by alfrednewman on Sun Dec 17, 2006 at 08:14:45 PM EST
that they already set up the frame work for a seperate city committee but the Mayor pulled support for it. I would expect that to change.

Jennings has had enemies since he beat Joyce- who was supposed to be the machine's candidate.  Reading all of the comments over the last couple of years here on DIA's site its kind of funny to look back and see how Jennings was supposed to be the insurgent candidate.  

The one reason for the Democratic Party's overwelming success in Albany County is because it has, for the past 80 so odd years, been able to put up a united front and a united organization.

Break that unity and you break the reason why Albany is able to remain a Democratic city.
"What? Me worry? " "whatmeworry.alfred@gmail.com"
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chip chip chip (none / 0) (#11)
by DIA on Mon Dec 18, 2006 at 05:25:23 AM EST
we'll keep chipping away.  As hawkman says above, jennings isn't a democrat.  Albany isn't a democratic city.  Its a one party city.  The only value that the leaders of the party hold dear is power, follwed closely by greed.  

Is it any wonder that Jennings is good friends with Sweeney?  Two hard drinking buddies who lie and cheat their way to victory.   when they get beat in a fair fight they act like spoiled children.  Anyone remember what jerry said when the legislature initially didn't approve the money for his money losing convention center?   Spoiled children who have no idea how to govern, only threaten.    one party rule is bad.  bad for america, bad for albany.   And its why Albany is broken.  

Hey hawk, as far as i see it, if you don't suck up to the mayor it is every man for himself in this city already.  If you aren't part of the loyal crowd you currently get shit on in this city.   I'll take some honest republicans over the criminals running this city any day.   It may not be easy to find honest republicans but around here its easier than finding an honest democrat who has any kind of power.  

PS Is DGS still headed by the guy covering up the corruption and theft?    

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