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Come on be serious (none / 0) (#1)
by professor on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 02:38:01 PM EST
You are blaming the Chief of Police for the problems in crime that city is experiencing?
I am as "liberal" as the next guy, but someone has to stand up and talk about the real problem and that is the prevelance of violence among the members of the black community.

I haven't seen one post address the problems that have become an epedemic inour city.  It sems like you are supporting and evn promoting folks like Corey Ellis and Dominick who actv as if our Police Officers are the enemy.

I mean where is Alice Green and Anne Pope when there is a serious discussion of the problems within the community they represent?

We don't need to second guess everything that the Police Chief does. Can you honestly say that there has been any Police Chief in the past 30 years that has been as accesible to the media and the people as Tuffey is?

Do you really believe that bhe has anything but the best interest of the citizens in mind?

Come on.  Lets look at the real problems.  Alice and Ann will tell you that the problems within the black community have to do with the repredssion and the discrimination of the community. That is probably partly true, but it laos goes far deeper into their own responsibility to teach respedct for the law and redspect for partents.  There has to be a new dialog.

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by DIA on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 02:44:23 PM EST
i'm blaming the chief of police for saying we don't have a gang problem in this city.

If we can't discuss the problems honestly, they won't get solved.

The police aren't the enemy.    I'm not sure where you get that idea but it is horseshit.   Go ask any one on the force if there is a gang problem in albany.   See what they say.   So why does the chief lie about it?

Anne Pope?  You mean the woman who was defending the criminal Wilcox?   Yeah, let's get her more involved.    That should reduce crime.

If you are so eager to have new dialogue, call up your buddy tuffey and tell him when he says there is no gang problem, he looks like he is out of touch or lying.    

And the chief told us he was reducing crime and we should hold him accountable.   So, yes, if crime goes up, he is on the hook.  Just doing what Chief wants.


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The Mayor and Chief are both to blame! (none / 0) (#3)
by Breakupthemachine on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 05:09:08 PM EST
First the mayor spends more money every year in the beer improvement district so people can drink than he does in the poor (read) black communities of Albany.  Check his political donations and find out how many bar owners donate to him.  See a conflict?

The near million dollars a year he spends at the golf course.  Wonder who benefits from that?  You got it, his contributors.

The Chief ended community policing in favor of an occupational force called the SDU which by the way is at the center of all the recent police abuse cases.

The people in the poor communities fought to have the beat officers stay but Tuffey took them away.  Now they don't know the officers, don't trust them and some are in fear of them.
~~~~In Vino Vertas~~~~
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Professor, is Tuffey accessible to the media (none / 0) (#4)
by FedUp on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 06:35:13 PM EST
for the best interest of the citizens of Albany or the best interest in himself?  What it comes down to is we have a chief who is in over his head, who does not have the respect of his force, and does not lead by example.  The politics has taken priority over the people and that's just not acceptable.

You are right professor that Tuffey is not directly to blame for the increase in crime in the city.  He is, however, to blame for not leading a strong management team to deal with the increase.  His  actions time and time again run counter to what is recommended by groups such as the International Chiefs of Police and what has been proven to work in other parts of the country.  It's all about maintaining secrecy and control with Tuffey.  

This is what happens when managers are selected and promoted on the strength of their political connections rather than their abilities. They are ineffective leaders who don't know what to do when the chips are down (ie - 5 chiefs in 10 years).  You can blame Jerry for that part....

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Well said (none / 0) (#7)
by Tom Paine on Fri Apr 18, 2008 at 04:59:31 AM EST
very well said

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